How I got rid of my gallstones

by Rudy

In May of this year (2009), I visited the emergency room with pain in my stomach and side. The ultrasound concluded that I had gallstones. A follow up visit with my doctor only offered me the advice of having the gallbladder removed. Actually, according to the doctor, this was my only choice!

As we all know, there is always more than one way to solve any problem, and this is no exception. I told him that I wanted to use an alternative method to get rid of the stones. This was his reply:

“Well, you can do what you want, but you can get an infection and you could DIE.”

I kid you not; this is what he said to me. Well, I was doing a lot of research on the internet and found many treatments to flush the gallstones out. “You can keep your gallbladder,” they said. There were also a lot of testimonials confirming the passing of the stones. My wife also conducted extensive research on the net and came up with a treatment to follow to soften and break down the stones, then flush them out.

I followed this treatment for about three weeks and on June 14th, 2009 , I commenced the flushing of the stones. Well, just as I had read online, I am living proof that the treatment works. Yes, I passed about 100 stones and it wasn’t painful at all. They varied in size from that of a cherry tomato to shotgun pellets.

I conducted a second flush about two weeks later and flushed out another 50 stones. At this time ( July 13th, 2009 ) I haven’t conducted a third flush, but plan to in the near future. I believe that I need to do one more to be sure that all the stones have been cleared out.

Now, I will explain the method I used to get rid of my gallstones.

Well, basically, I watched what I ate and took several supplements to help soften and break down the stones prior to the flush.

I avoided fatty, greasy foods and dairy – mainly. I ate a lot of carrots. It is said that in the treatment of disease, it is important to alkalinize the body, and carrot juice has been demonstrated to rapidly achieve this objective through cleansing of the liver and improving the quality of the blood.

I also ate a lot of apples and drank apple juice. The malic acid in the apples helps soften gallstones. Remember that old adage; “An apple a day?”

I was also taking these supplements at the same time:

1. Gallbladder Support Formula (Li Dan Pian) – This I purchased at a Chinese supermarket. It contains the Chinese herb Lysimachiae (AKA Gold Coin Grass), which helps soften the gallstones. It also contains a few other herbs that possess antibiotic and anti-inflammatory qualities. I took 4 tablets, 3 times a day.

2. Peppermint oil pills – This helps dissolve and break down stones. I took 1 tablet, 3 times a day.

3. Dandelion root – This helps support the liver. The liver works in conjunction with the gallbladder. I took 2 tablets, once a day.

4. Milk Thistle – This is a liver and blood cleanser. I took 1 tablet, once a day.

After following this regimen for 3 weeks, I was ready for my flush. The 10 or so hours prior to the flush, I barely ate anything (just an apple) and drank liquids; mostly apple juice.

Before I went to bed (and they suggest you do the flush just before going to sleep), I drank ½ cup of olive oil and ½ cup of lemon juice. It is suggested that you drink the olive oil first followed by the lemon juice. If you cannot consume the entire amount in one shot, you can drink it in smaller quantities every fifteen minutes.

I drank half of each within a couple of minutes and then drank the other halves about 5 minutes later. If you feel nauseous, have some salt readily available and put a dab on your tongue. This should help take that feeling away. It helped me.

The olive oil will help lubricate your duct and allow easier passage for the gallstones. The lemon juice helps constrict the gallbladder, thus forcing the stones out.

I then went to bed, lying on my right side with my hips slightly elevated. This will help keep the olive oil and lemon juice in the gallbladder. After that, it’s just a waiting game, until you feel the urge to purge. (They come out with the fecal matter)

There was no pain associated with the passing of the stones. The greatest discomfort for me was staying in that awkward position in bed for a prolonged period of time. There are different lengths of time suggested to lay on your side from half an hour to 4 hours. I would just suggest doing it as long as you can. After my initial bowel movement, I went back to bed and laid on my right side again.

You will probably not see any stones in your first bowel movement. The second and third movements are usually the greatest with regard to stone amounts. By the fourth movement there are almost no stones (this was my experience). Since this is being done just before you go to bed, you will probably not eat. I would suggest to only drink liquids during this time and would recommend apple juice (organic and NOT from concentrate, if possible). After the process is over, you may eat something light.

It is also suggested to perform an enema before starting the flush. I would say that this is optional and did not do one myself; still achieving good results.

If anyone has any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. You can contact me by email at RudyBodnar@cox.net. I may have to ask my wife for the answers since she is more knowledgeable in this area than me. Feel free to pass this along to someone you know who may be suffering from this same affliction.

Thank you for reading this and I wish you a healthy future!

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Jul 31, 2014
Anonymous NEW
by: Elizabeth

Yes, that's right there's a lot of information online too, even thought I wouldn't trust everything I read, plus the pharmaceutical companies and health shops love blowing up the effects of their "miracle" products.
You can start with 1-2 things and see how your body (& gallbladder) agree with them. Don't forget to avoid the foods that cause you the gallstone attacks and cut on fat. :) Good luck!

Jul 31, 2014
whoops NEW
by: Anonymous

Geez I don't know how that posted 3 times, hopefully the admin can fix thst lol!

Jul 31, 2014
Elizabeth NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you! There is more info all the time on the internet. Last year I could find so little and now there are so many things to try. Gold Coin Grass, chanca piedra, everything you posted, esp. Soya lecithin. I've dealt with my g.b. issues for almost a decade and there was little to no help I could find. Now i dont even know what to try first lol!

Jul 31, 2014
Elizabeth NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you! There is more info all the time on the internet. Last year I could find so little and now there are so many things to try. Gold Coin Grass, chanca piedra, everything you posted, esp. Soya lecithin. I've dealt with my g.b. issues for almost a decade and there was little to no help I could find. Now i dont even know what to try first lol!

Jul 31, 2014
Elizabeth NEW
by: Anonymous

Thank you! There is more info all the time on the internet. Last year I could find so little and now there are so many things to try. Gold Coin Grass, chanca piedra, everything you posted, esp. Soya lecithin. I've dealt with my g.b. issues for almost a decade and there was little to no help I could find. Now i dont even know what to try first lol!

Jul 31, 2014
Oops, I gave you the wrong e-mail address NEW
by: Elizabeth

Sorry about that, I missed a letter yesterday when I typed my e-mail address here. The correct one is: mentalmunchkins@gmail.com. Cheers.

Jul 30, 2014
Hello again... :) NEW
by: Elizabeth

Hi there Anonymous,
I've tried to put together a short list of all I am doing, but if it's not clear and/or you have other questions, please ask.
So, I take the following: dry birch leaves infusion - 3 times a day, 30 min-1 hour before eating; soya lecithin (1,000-1,200 mg) capsules - 1 every morning with food; dried rosemary capsules - 1-2 once a day, with food; ordinary vitamin C (100-200 mg) once or twice a day, with food and ordinary multivitamins (mine are not even the expensive ones and still do the work! ;) ). Additionally, I increased my water intake to 2 litres - 2.5 litres a day, I started using Himalaya salt, I cut off all dairy - milk, eggs, cheeses (as they seem to make gallstone attacks worse and cause all sorts of allergic reactions). Occasionally though, I do buy feta/Greek/Salad cheese, but if you get some don't forget to soak and keep it in water in the fridge, because it's quite salty. When I'm dying for something sweet, I usually have some honey. I also increased my usage of lemons - lemon juice is very good! :) I put it in water, soups, sometimes even stews, haha. I have a list of foods (some given to me by a doctor), some I have researched myself, which I have tried and so far are agreeable with my gallbladder. This is all I could think of. Again, please note that I am NOT a doctor - even if the remedies/herbal supplements have been recommended to me by doctors, pharmacists and people with gallstones. If anyone's interested or wants to know/ask more, you could e-mail me at: mentalmunchkin@gmail.com. Hope this helps. :)

Jul 29, 2014
Thank you Elizabeth NEW
by: Anonymous

Elizabeth could you give specifics on amounts and regimens of your remedies you have been using? Thank you!

Jul 29, 2014
I have gallstones too - this is what I do... NEW
by: Elizabeth

Hello everyone, four months ago, after what I initially thought was very acute food poisoning and after two months of visiting different doctors, having constant & very painful attacks and being misdiagnosed (with having stomach ulcer), I was sent for a stomach scan. They discovered that I, indeed have several gallstones and that the largest one is 9.3 milimeters big. I was stunned. The good news was that I didn't seem to have any other problem. The bad news - I was told to go straight for an operation, after a consultation with my GP. She was clueless (I am trying not to use the word "useless" here) and didn't provide me with ANY information on what I could, or should eat, what changes do I have in order to improve/solve the problem, let alone offer me an alternative to having an operation. With the help of my family, friends, other doctors (in a different country), talks with pharmacists, etc, I did some research and found out that there are other ways of managing the problem and avoiding an operation. This is the place to mention that I am a bit over-weight and in my case eating unhealthily for the past 9 years and putting the weight on caused the problem with the gallstones.
What I did was change the way I was eating, drinking plenty of water and taking herbal remedies (I suppose you could call 'em that). The ones I have been so far are taking: dried birch leaves infusion, dried rosemary capsules, lecithin, Vitamin C. After around 3 weeks of starting to drink just the dried birch infusion, drinking water and changing what I eat, I had a second stomach scan abroad, which showed that the biggest stones now are between 4-6 milimetres (compared to 9.3 milimetres the month before). A doctor there said that I should still have the operation, but I am going to wait and see if there are any results. I'm hoping to go for another stomach scan in a couple of months time and see if there is any difference in the size and the number of the gallstones.
To me, what I am taking currently and of course, changing what and how I eat helps - I feel better overall, my skin cleared, I don't feel bloated and MOST importantly - I haven't had an attack in nearly 2.5 months, which I am sure you all know is a huuuge relief, as my attacks were excruciatingly painful. I will post-pone having an operation (which they have scheduled me for) and I will observe myself in the next few months and see how it goes. I am sharing what works for me atm, and if it gives you an idea or helps you in some way, I'll be glad. The gallstone problem seems to be quite common, but very painful and unpleasant! Good luck! :)

Jul 26, 2014
Gallstones NEW
by: Tim

I was diagnosed with gallstones this year and was in agony. I'm a firm believer in natural health and tried the flush 3 times.In my opinion, the flush didn't/doesn't work.

I now have multiple stones compacted in the bile duct and have undergone 2 endoscopy procedures, failed both times

By the time you have gallstone pain, it means they're most likely blocking the duct. I did pass some big green things, but I believe it was soap from the olive oil and lemon juice. The specialist I'm seeing did admit that lecithin does reduce stone size, so maybe follow up on that, but please take care doing this flush

Jul 19, 2014
Truth is in between NEW
by: Peter D

Whether the flush works or not, I think it is reasonable to say that the truth is somewhere in between. It seems that the saponification does occur as a result of chemical reactions of elements involved in the flush, and most stones are a product of saponification. BUT, it is highly likely that the flush does stimulate gallbladder to expel real stones. If stones are smaller, the flush will work well, based on statements provided by Rudy and others. However, if stones are big then it will either not work or push the stones into ducts where they can get stuck and cause serious problems. So, as with everything, there is a bit of risk that flushing involves, but a proper assessment of individual circumstances helps in choosing the right option.

Jul 04, 2014
Thank you Rudy
by: Anonymous

I am excited to hear about the Chinese medicine. I have suffered from stones and several severe attacks that sent me to the e.r. with fevers and vomiting and intense childbirth-like pain. I have avoided/refused surgery since my diagnosis in 2004. The olive oil flush has always scared me. I do the apple products. Also was going to order malic acid powder on amazon soon. I find heating apple juice to also be beneficial. As well as lying on heating pad. On the note of diet, I have found that bedides foods with cholesterol, gassy foods can be horrific. Your system is backed up with stones and resulting inflammation and constipation. So if just avoiding cholesterol isn't working consider cutting broccoli, onions, asparagus, beans etc. Also I have found using beano and lactaid can help with these symptoms. Also drink a ton of water. And with the addition of organic apple cider vinegar to water, even better. But I am eager to look into Chinese medicine. I can tell my overall health and well being is being affected from my decade of gb issues. I was also diagnosed with liver tumors and swear there is a connection. Thanks again!

Jul 03, 2014
Gallstones Proof by ultrasound
by: Jeff

I'd also be very interested to know if anyone has done a before and after ultrasound to see if the gallstone flush had cleared away any stones and how much.

Jun 23, 2014
Ultrasound
by: Daniel

Has anyone here who previously had an ultrasound which showed the gallstones in the gallbladder, and after performing the flush, actually had another ultrasound done to CONFIRM there are no more stones?

I have stones and tried many flushes. My stones are actually many and quite small. When I went for a second ultrasound the stones were INDEED THERE.

I was also told that Apple juice does not actually dissolve anything since there is not way for something orally taken to actually reach the gallbladder.

So... has someone here actually confirmed by ULTRASOUND that the stones are INDEED GONE?

Thank you, I am very much wanting to get rid of mine. The only alternative to surgery seems to be ursodeoxycholic acid which (IF IT WORKS), could take close to 9 months to complete.

Jun 16, 2014
To Achotee
by: Rudy

Achotee, can you please tell me the name of the herbs you were given, if you were told specific names? This would really help out.

May 29, 2014
Traditional chinese medicine
by: Achotee

I have been struggling with gallbladder attacks since March,2014. I finally got an attack that sent me to the doctor. He told me to immdiately go to the ER and have my gallbladder removed. I went to a Tradition Chinese Medicine practitioner and he prescribed some herbs. They were amazing. I was eating food that I had to avoid because of the attacks. I was previously drinking up to a 1/4 apple cider vingar after meals. This is my second week of the herbs and I am already passing a bunch of small stones. I highly recommend to anyone to talk to a TCM practioner. It has made a tremdous diffence. Thank you for sharing your experience too.

May 27, 2014
gall bladder stone treatment
by: Anonymous

what drugs can be in the treatment of gallstone bladder

May 09, 2014
Olive oil and lemon juice
by: Rudy

I was asked how many times to do the olive oil and lemon juice. After the initial 2 to 3 week prep period, you will consume 1/2 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup lemon juice. This is only done once per flush. Do not do this several times in a day or several times over a few days. This is a one time deal per flush.

May 07, 2014
galstones
by: Anonymous

how many times a night do i do the olive oil and lemon juice every night or what

Apr 19, 2014
gall stones
by: Anonymous

Hi Rudy and thank you so much, i am much better these days since watching my diet and not eating much at nights except some probiotic yoghurt, i am eating some apples and having apple juice for about 3 days now, i will continue eating and drinking the juice as well for another two weeks or so and then do the flush, i am still having constipation problems so i eat some fibre but not helping, i am also adding lots of water in between my meals to help with this, so i hope it comes right soon, i will definately write to let u know how the flush went, and just to mention that a lady 'melted' my gallstones online, hope i dont sound crazy lol but ever since she did this with me over skype i have not had to take my painkillers :) i guess its mind over matter as well :) take care and il write again soon

Apr 19, 2014
To: help!!!!! by Anonymous
by: Rudy

I was told something very similar by my doctor and no longer see him. Actually, I haven't been back to the doctor for this problem since 2009. I cannot tell you 100% that this works. With everything I've experienced, it seems to work for me. I will be able to go to the doctor soon (getting some money back from taxes) and I will see about getting an ultrasound. This may finally be the ultimate evidence I need in my arsenal. If, by any chance there are stones, then I plan to do a flush and go back for a follow up ultrasound and see what the results are. Please email me at RudyBodnar@cox.net for more detailed info. Also, there are times when this surgery is necessary, it's just that these doctors do it all the time and 90% of the surgeries are not needed.

Apr 19, 2014
To: Anonymous Sally Ann
by: Rudy

Anonymous Sally Ann: I have outlined above what I took, why I took it and how much. Is it ok to also take the cataflam? My honest answer is that I don't know. I know that what I took worked for me and I didn't have any pain as long as I was eating as I outlined above. No fatty greasy food and no dairy. Also I was reminded about not eating anything spicy (which isn't listed above, partly due to the fact that I don't eat spicy food anyway). I never had the pain as long as I ate like this. Perhaps there is something that is still giving you a problem and it could be the soup if it is oily. When I did my flush, I never had any pain. This is my own personal experience any time I've done the flush. For your prep period, I highly recommend the Gallbladder Support Formula (Li Dan Pian). I was able to get this at a local Chinese supermarket. If you cannot find this product, send me an email at the address at the end of this post and I will help you find it. And the other thing that I think really helped me was plenty of apples and apple juice.

RudyBodnar@cox.net

Apr 13, 2014
help!!!!!
by: Anonymous

I went in for surgery on April 10th 2014. Something didn't feel right about having my gallbladder removed. I was so scared. My doctor got mad and told me he refused to do my surgery. But he also said I would die if I didn't get it taken out. I'm not a fan of medicine either. I don't even take tylenol for headaches. Please tell me there that's does work 100%. I've already tried radishes, beets and pear juice rraw.lets just say it wasn't going. Please help I'm stressed.

Apr 13, 2014
gall stones
by: AnonymousSally Ann

hi everyone, i am a 56 yr old female, have much stress in my life/environment, have been suffering for many years with indigestion, used to get it normally after eating fatty rich food, suffer with pain for 6 to 8 hours then finally bringing up and later the pain goes away, in the last month i have been having such severe pain with no vomiting, the last attack lasted almost 24 hours with no vomiting, went to see my doc and did a scan and gallstones were sighted, i have to go back and see my doc yet since the scan, i really dont want to have the operation, so ive been doing research on the net and came across ure page, my question is that i am so so afraid of severe pain while i am going to do the flush in about 3 weeks time, can i still take the painkillers i am on now, i self medicated myself coz my doctor didnt give me any painkillers, he just gave me some scopex, adco antacid and omeprazole, which was not helping at all, so i took some cataflam tablet one day and whooo what a relief i got from the pain, i have stopped taking the tablets from the doc coz they were not doing anything, i have lost 6kgs already coz i am mostly on soft foods and soup, i really want to do the flush in 3 weeks time but i am so afraid of the pain without my painkillers but im just gonna do it coz what is one night of pain compared to the operation? il let u know how it goes, thank u for all the information on here it really really helped me so much, thank you

Mar 26, 2014
Stones after gallbladder surgery
by: Rudy

I have heard of people still getting stones even after the gallbladder is removed. I have a couple of friends who had their gallbladders removed many years ago and complained of diarrhea for years afterword.

Mar 26, 2014
To Anita
by: Rudy

The olive oil and lemon juice have never made me throw up, but everyone is different. I would wait a month before doing another flush. Don't forget to do your prep work before the flush.

Mar 22, 2014
gallbladder out still having problems
by: Anonymous

Had lapo gallbladder surgery in june 2013. Its now march 2014 . I have had four big attacks that felt just like my previous gallbladder attacks. I think the stones getting stuck are coming directly from my liver. Im severely bloated daily from my belly button on up. I am not happy with this situation. I guess my theory is the stones come from the liver. Ive talked to several other oeople who also had this problem after their surgery. Frustrating!!!!!!

Mar 21, 2014
Vomiting
by: Anita

After I drank the juice and oil I went to sleep. Two hours later I woke feeling ill I ran to the bathroom and vomited 4 times. I went back to bed. No stones all day! When can I do another flush? The EPROMs salts worked really well I think my bowel is now empty.

Feb 09, 2014
Apple Juice - answer to anonymous
by: Rudy

I would say that pure apple juice would be best. Would a "from concentrate" work? I would say yes, but, organic, not from concentrate would be best.

Jan 30, 2014
Good thing I found this
by: Rabitto29

thank god I found this, I was diagnose with acute cholecystitis, the doctor said I have to undergo surgery :( hopefully this will help me. I'll be getting a second opinion from another hospital and do a followup ultrasound once I've done this. :)

Jan 30, 2014
thanks for the tip!
by: Anonymous

Hey thanks for this idea! I'm gonna try this as even I get attacked by biliary colic now and then.. and d do. suggested gall bladder removal..could u tell tell if this wud b effective If I'm taking apple juice from concentrate.. not organic..cos I get only that in ease...

Jan 05, 2014
As Valory says...
by: Rudy

Take what is said here in this blog and comments and research it further for yourself. All I can say is how it's worked for me and was hoping it would help others as well. I have not been able to verify my success with a doctor, but all I can say is that I feel much better than I did nearly 5 years ago now. Thank you Valory.

Dec 19, 2013
Getting rid of Gallstones - the natural non surgical way
by: Anonymous

Hi, I was having these pains in my stomach that started in Winter 2013 Australia and so i had these Aldi (supermarket) headache/pain tablets and so i took those and noticed the pain in my stomach went away. This pain has happened to me a few times this year and only last for 2 or 3 hours. As it turns out it was gallbladder stones :(, as I had only had my wisdom teeth out last week Friday 13 December 2013 I was in pain. As i am a reasonably healthy person i would never of assumed it would gallbladder stones. Though as since 2006 i have been trying to get rid of the gained weight i have put on. As even before i was diagnosed with gallbladder stones I was going to start eating healthier and exercising more in the middle of January 2014. As i am reasonably healthy I’d rather have the stones get rid of the natural way do these remedies actually work as my doctor said there was really nothing to get rid of them in the way of medication and so Id rather research ways to get rid of gallstones without having the operation, though i haven’t seen the main doctor who specialises in these issues yet so I’m praying and hoping to god that I don’t want to have the operation yet, or even have to have it done next year when my parents won’t be here as they’ll be in Europe for a year.

Valory adds: the many generous readers have contributed quite a bit of information through their comments on this matter. I'd suggest reading through the information here, do some extra research on the topic and then, if you still have questions, find a good naturopath in your area to consult.

Dec 16, 2013
Some thoughts (continued)
by: Rudy

"The Flexner Report was a very useful tool commissioned by oil magnate John D. Rockefeller. Rockefeller had made a massive fortune with Standard Oil and was setting his sights on gaining a monopoly in the drug and pharmaceutical industry. However, first he had to get rid of the competition, which consisted of natural non-allopathic healing modalities – naturopathy, homeopathy, eclectic medicine (botanical and herbal medicine), holistic medicine, etc. Hemp was also a threat to his plans, since cannabis has tremendous medical benefit – it can be used to alleviate pain for numerous diseases and even has anti-cancer properties.

Rockefeller paid Abraham Flexner to visit all the medical schools in the US at that time. He released the so-called “Flexner Report” in 1910, which called for the standardization of medical education and concluded there were too many doctors and medical schools in America. Rockefeller then used his control of the media to generate public outcry at the findings of the report – which, by means of the classic elite strategy of “Problem, Reaction, Solution” as David Icke calls it, ultimately led Congress to declare the AMA (American Medical Association) the only body with the right to grant medical school licenses in the United States. This suited Rockefeller perfectly – he then used the AMA (which may be better called to the American Murder Association due their widespread use and endorsement of toxic vaccines, drugs, chemotherapy and radiation) to compel the Government destroy the natural competition, which it did through regulating medical schools.

The AMA only endorsed schools with a drug-based curriculum. It didn’t take long before non-allopathic schools fell by the wayside due to lack of funding. Thus, Rockefeller had his monopoly on drugs, and Big Pharma was born – and has only grown bigger and more terrible since, now routinely bribing doctors to prescribe their toxic and side effect-laden pills, not to mention their autism-causing vaccines. Rockefeller, the AMA and Big Pharma are now all key aspects of the NWO (New World Order), but it all started with the Flexner Report."

Rockefeller himself never went to allopathic doctors but rather used naturopaths etc. Think about it; the man who was responsible for creating the American Medical Association (AMA) never went to a doctor that was licensed by that very institution. People need to do some research on the allopathic medicine industry and what it's really all about. There is a lot that these allopathic doctors do not know.

Dec 16, 2013
Some thoughts
by: Rudy

I have not yet gone back to the doctor for a follow up visit for an ultrasound of my gallbladder. I want to do so in the near future, but I have other things going on financially right now that is prohibiting it.

As far as for Anna's comment; everyone needs to do what they feel is best for them. I would have to say that my situation is nothing like hers. Even when I went to the emergency room almost 5 years ago, I didn't get sick. I have been virtually pain free for all this time. It is a choice and everyone has to make their own.

I do have to say that doctors don't know everything and allopathic treatment (modern medical doctors) was not the standard just over a hundred years ago. John D. Rockefeller ran a campaign to crush alternative modalities which were very much mainstream back then. Here is an article which explains this: (See other post, too mant characters for one post)


Dec 12, 2013
Just do the surgery while it's not a emergency
by: Anna

I had many attacks from my gallbladder for 7 years. I'd be fine for several months and then I'd be sicker than a dog throwing up and terrible pain. I found that apple juice for several days helped me to feel better. Also drank two teaspoons of vinegar in glass of water helped with pain twice a day. But, unfortunately, it wasn't enough. I got so bad that I had my gallbladder lapo surgery June 2013. I had fever for two weeks and was sicker than a dog. My gallbladder was so inflamed that it ruptured during surgery. Don't take this risk. Just do the surgery and get better. I almost died from waiting too long. It can cause pancreas as problems or even death. Listen to the drs.

Nov 19, 2013
curious
by: Anonymous

have you gone back to the doctor and had another ultrasound or cat scan done to verify that the gall stones are gone?

Nov 01, 2013
Thanks and response to Bijaya
by: Rudy

Thank you Alyssa for your comment. As you stated, after flushes, I am able to tolerate anything that would have caused me severe pain before. There certainly are alternatives, and what I did may not be for everyone.

Bijaya, if you decide to do this, please follow the entire regimen. You need to break down and soften the stones first. In the flush, you must take the oil and lemon juice, both are necessary. Thank you for your interest.

Oct 23, 2013
thanks
by: Bijaya G

Encouraging post.
I have a single stone. 3.2 cm .is it possible to pass that big a stone using olive oil only?
Thanks
BG

Oct 18, 2013
Which medicine is the quack medicine?
by: Alyssa

I normally don't comment on the web, but felt the need to chime in. I never knew I had gallstones until 2010, 3 months after having my daughter when I had a horrific gallbladder attack and wound up in the hospital for 3 days. The only thing keeping me alive was the morphine, because those were 3 days of my life of being practically unconscious. The ER doctor thought I was just having an ulcer and everybody ran around like a chicken with their head cut off. Thank God it wasn't something more severe because an ulcer was far from it. I walked away and didn't notice any pain until earlier this year 2013. My gallbladder area hurt while working out or after eating fatty foods so I went to my PCP who nonchalantly said well lets do a sono and see if its your gallbladder and if so we'll take it out. I like how its no big deal to conventional medicine to take things out because to me if we're born with it I can't fathom organs being deemed unnecessary.

Long story short I saw a surgeon in high hopes that he may be able to give me options, but who in short only gave me one and told me that there was nothing that I could do. I was set up for surgey and felt trusting of my surgeon and surgery itself, but not removing my organ because if I did so there would be no going back. Something inside of me told me (I claim it was the cosmos, God, higher power, whatever) to not do it. To find a Chinese Medicine doctor and give it a try. I studied TCM in college and held it in high regards but never considered it until now.

Well I'm happy to report that in under two weeks, 1 acupuncture round, and a daily digestion of Chinese herbs that my pain is almost gone. I tried to push it by eating fatty stuff for a few days that normally would have me crawling into bed just to see and still no pain. My practitioner intends to follow through with more acupuncture and herbs to soften the gallbladder for a few months and eventually do a flush. It is amazing to feel empowered and in control of my body, as well as have a doctor sit with me for an hour and half just to discuss my body, anatomy, and physiology. All I could ever get from my conventional doctors was the explanation that removing the organ was the only way to go on. My TCM doctor has explained everything that has happened, what is going on, and how I can change it. I'm not knocking modern medicine, we have made countless advances, but in times like these it makes me want to ask-who is the real quack?

I'm also to hear people having awful experiences naturally attempting to heal themselves. I think if you have a case like mine where your stones are large or completely filling the gallbladder (mine are) than it would be in your best interest to seek out a naturpathic, Chinese Medicine, or holistic doctor first in addition to this information here.

Sep 29, 2013
Did the flush too but..
by: Anonymous

Hi, really interested in reading your post and happy that the flush worked on you or maybe because of the other meds/supplements your taking. I too was diagnosed to have gallstone last January 2006. Since then I keep researching on what to do since I don't also think that surgery is the best answer. I researched the food that i should eat and what not to eat. And just like you, apple juice and eating apples and low fat diet were what i eat. Basing from my experience i only have gall attacks if i ate too much greasy or oily food. 2010 I had an attack again and had an ultrasound again from .4mm 2006 utz. my stone grew to.7mm. I still didn't thought of surgery, I still went on with the apple juice diet and low fat food. But being human still i get tempted and eat this fatty foods again. By 2011 I had a gall attack again, this time more painful from the previous attack. I undergo utz again stones this time is 1.cm already. still not on to surgery, I opted for the flush. I did different sizes of green stones too but noticed that these stones melt. After the flush I did feel better even after eating fatty food but not much of it. What's wrong with me was i never had a utz after the flush. But just these Sept. 9, 2013, I had a gall attack with pain I can never imagine. It was so painful that I'm afraid to close my eyes cause I may not be able to open it again. I asked my husband to take me to the hospital, At first I didn't inform the doctor that I have gallstones, I was injected with medicine for stomach pain which I use to ask every time I had an attack but this time it didn't work. The doctor had to admit me because of the pain. So I was injected for pain again and after an hour I felt okay, Afraid to undergo such pain again. I told the doctor that I have gallstone so he told me if I am willing to undergo surgery. And yes because I got tired of the flush, the surgery was then scheduled. And as I was preparing for the surgery I undergo alot of lab tests and yes UTZ(Ultrasound) again and I found out that my stone size ranges 1.0 to 1.3cm already. And just this Sept. 16, 2013, I had my gall bladder removed and know what I found, the stones that were taken from me(5 stones) with sizes 1.0cm+ was much different from the stones i passed during the flush. Stones were hard and colored a little black and pigmented red. I posted this that whoever can read might learn or somehow help in your decision to make. 7 years was a long time for me to decide too.
thank you.

Aug 18, 2013
Anecdotal Comments
by: Valory

Thanks Rudy for your thoughtful comments and helpful answers to the many excellent questions asked here on the subject of gallstone removal. I know this dialog has helped a lot of people to, at the very least, rethink their available options when they were delivered the same diagnosis as you were - and as I was as well, back in the 90's.
I did not know about the gallstone flush back then. But neither did I simply accept what my doctor was telling me was my only option - surgery - as fact. I asked a LOT of questions. I researched as best I could on the topic (at the time, I lived high in the Colorado Rockies and the internet was pretty new and consisted of long distance telephone charges to log online back then :), but mainly, I simply KNEW that other options must be available, I just had to learn what they were.
Although my doctor was firmly entrenched in the AMA mindset, he ultimately did listen to my concerns and reasoning and, with some exasperation, recommended a local acupuncturist. He also asked if I was willing to try a Chinese medicinal herbal blend a colleague had recently told him about.
After more questions, I agreed to try both.
He was admittedly surprised when, during a follow up ultrasound sometime later, my gallstones had disappeared.
My point here is two-fold - it's important to keep an open mind even as we educate ourselves (and in some cases, our medical practitioner as well :) and take responsibility for our own healing experience. This does not mean naively accepting every bit of information that comes our way without question. However, much anecdotal information is certainly worthy of consideration.
Most of the comments shared here are anecdotal. They seem to be offered with the best of intentions and goodwill at heart. Sharing our experiences, what's worked for us, or not, sharing information we've read about in articles, asking questions, etc., it's all good :)
Thank you all for your wonderful comments, questions and sharings here. We remain heart-centered.

Aug 18, 2013
Hmmm.....something to think about
by: Rudy

Let me first clear up an inaccuracy. I did not have any stones as large as a golf ball. I never stated that, so I don't know where that's coming from. I did say cherry tomato, and there were only two "close" to that size. Most were the size of shotgun pellets. You could easily fit 150 of those in your gallbladder.

The fact is that there is nothing to suggest that the flush doesn't work. I have heard about the oil and lemon juice combining and curdling to form "pseudo stones". I can neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of this claim, but it really has little significance even if it is true. Here are some points to ponder...

1. After doing a flush, some people report not passing any stones. If the oil and lemon juice allegedly always create stones, then this runs opposite to that claim.

2. Ingesting the same amount of oil and lemon juice results in vastly different amounts of stones. My wife and I can verify that.

3. When I have done consecutive flushes, fewer and fewer stones are flushed out. (Again, while ingesting the same amounts of oil and lemon juice, hmmmm?)

4. I was in extreme pain and was told by my doctor over four years ago that I had to have my gallbladder out. These things only get worse, according to doctors, so I would expect to be in really bad shape or have had my gallbladder removed in emergency surgery by now, neither of which is even remotely the case. Before a flush I would have severe pain if I had greasy fatty food or dairy. After the flush I can eat anything I want without any problem. Does this sound like it doesn't work?

5. How long before a bad case of gall stones (if none were ever removed) becomes a problem. 5 years? 10 years? I'm still waiting.

I have done a few flushes since my initial 3, four years ago for preventative maintenance or because I was feeling slight discomfort. I have never had nearly as many stones come out in these later flushes. I do plan to go to the doctor at some point for another ultrasound to finally 100% verify what I'm saying.

So, regardless of what people say about these "pseudo stones" being created, I know that the flushes work for me. Personally, I don't need any more proof. Any further proof would be for the benefit of those who have not done the flush yet.

Aug 18, 2013
Pain pills
by: Rudy

I don't see why you couldn't take pain pills during the prep period. Just make sure your prep period is no shorter than 2 weeks. I would even suggest 3 weeks. That's what I did my first time.

Aug 16, 2013
Question
by: Anonymous

can you take pain pills during the preparation phase (5-6 days drinking apple juice) of a gallstone flush?

Aug 13, 2013
hmm..
by: Mike

There's just one problem with all of this: there is no evidence that it works and more evidence that the "stones" you are flushing out are nothing more than olive oil that has hardened during the digestive process. The gallbladder is a very, very small organ and it would be impossible for there to be 150 stones in it ranging in size from a golf ball to a pebble, it's just not possible for all that to fit in there. If you did this flush every day for a year, you would have 150 "stones" every day. Fact is this simply does not work to remove gallstones and there is no evidence to say that it does.

Aug 06, 2013
For those with complications
by: Valory

May I suggest seeking recommendations for a good naturopath or other health practitioner who works with alternative/holistic healing methods in your area?

Aug 04, 2013
In Response to Recent Posts
by: Rudy

It is disheartening to hear when this method does not work for people. It is hard to say why, when I have no details as to what exactly was done. I can only say, as I have done so here before, it has worked for me every time. And once again, I stress that the prep work leading up to the flush is VERY important and should not be done for less than 2 weeks (I'd even suggest 3 weeks). Ultimately, it is each individuals choice in the end after weighing their options and researching the information.

As for the person with the pancreas issue. I cannot advise you medically there. I really do not have an answer for you except to say to get your doctor's advice. While the majority of gallbladder removals are unnecessary, sometimes it is the only way to go and I just don't know enough to give you any better advice. I do wish you the best of luck and health.

Aug 03, 2013
Scared to try your method!
by: Anonymous

I presently am suffering from gallstones and really apprehensive about using your method. Nevertheless I want to avoid gallbladder surgery at all cost! My apprehension is caused by being hospitalized for nine 9 days recently, with pancreatitis. Instead of passing the gallstone, the reserve happened and the gallstone went into my pancreas.Therefore a serious infection was in my gland. At my last doctors appointment it appears the infection is healing but not clearly out of danger. My doctors want to remove my gallbladder on August 21st.
After reading your experience and how you are progressing really gives me confidence, but not so sure because of the pancreas...
Please any suggestions will help.

Thank you,

Jul 30, 2013
Flush (gone bad)
by: Anonymous

I've tryed this and it did not work for me but only made it worse for me as I had to be taken to a&e and spend 7 days in there on very strong pain meds and iv fluids so it don't work on all people but worth a shot at it if it works for you but just think about it if it don't work for you

Jun 26, 2013
Brave
by: Anonymous

I salute you for being brave and patient enough to take your medicines... And now I finally found out that having a gallstone it can be cured without surgery provided you follow what you did and take medicines spiritually ..

Jun 21, 2013
Best information for all gallbladder stone patients
by: Anonymous

Thanks for sharing this best information to everybody who they are suffering by gallbladder stone. May All Gods Bless You and Your family.

Jun 13, 2013
Last response was from me
by: Rudy

Sorry, that last response says "by Anonymous", but it is, in fact, my reply. I forgot to put my name there. It is the reply responding to the concern of dangers of the flush.

Jun 06, 2013
To Anonymous on the flush being dangerous
by: Anonymous

Thank you for your input about the saponified fats looking like stones. I have heard of this before, but I have not looked into it deeply as of yet. I actually never came across this when I was researching about the flushes.

There are risks to anything, even driving to the grocery store. People should do their own research and see if it is right for them. I guess that I should stress that this is my own personal experience and everyone needs to make up their own minds as to what they want to do.

I always stress that the prep work before the flush is very important. No one should attempt the flush without taking the time to break down and soften their stones first, with a regimen similar to what I've stated above, for at least 2 weeks. On my initial flush, I followed the regimen for 3 weeks.

I would also like to reiterate that this was 4 years ago when my doctor was telling me that I had to have my gallbladder out and I was having extreme pain from my gall stones. I have done a few flushes since then for minor discomfort or preventative maintenance. But, I always do the prep work before the flush. If the flushes didn't work, I'd be in a heap of trouble by now, or would have had my gallbladder removed in an emergency surgery. I'm glad to say that I am not even close to that scenario. I am living proof that this regimen works for me. The choice is up to the individual.

May 07, 2013
great info, but flush can be dangerous
by: Anonymous

I enjoyed reading your post and am currently on a regimen with many similar supplements; they've been truly helpful. I'm also eating vegan about 80% of the time, and eating lean meat and lowfat cheese in moderation the rest.

One thing worth pointing out and to follow up on your recent reply is that many naturopathic doctors (who do prescribe the supplements you mention) really warn against these olive oil flushes because they can be truly dangerous to someone with stones. The large, green stones people see pass have been documented as saponified (soaplike) fats created in your body by consuming all that olive oil. No doubt other gall stones could be flushed out as well, but there's a danger there for people with stones to stimulate the gallbladder like that because of the risk of those stones getting stuck.

I'm not a medical practitioner but I am a freelance health reporter (with a bad gallbladder) so, FWIW. Thanks for sharing so much good info.

Apr 11, 2013
Hello,
by: Rudy

"Scared to try", this is in response to your questions.

Unfortunately, I am unable to 100% verify that what I passed were gallstones, because I never took them to be examined. I regret that decision, although, financial problems also prevented that at the time. I can tell you this. I felt great and could eat anything without any pain. I have done a couple of flushes since 2009 as preventative maintenance, but I was so bad back in 2009, that if I hadn't expelled my stones, I think I would be in really bad shape now, or dead. I am not close to either.

A couple of the stones I passed were almost an inch in diameter and I never felt them leave the gallbladder.

My wife had also done a flush, not because she was having any symptoms, but because this flush can also help the liver, as the gallbladder and liver work in tandem. She also had some stones come out. I have concluded that we all probably have something, it's just that some are not bothered by a tiny amount. In later investigations, I came across articles that have said the same thing, that probably everyone has some stones.

Any other questions, you (and anyone else) can reach me at RudyBodnar@cox.net

Apr 10, 2013
scared to try ?
by: Anonymous

how did ya know they were gallstones? what if they get stuck in bile duct have stones ?? email back

Mar 24, 2013
You can find me on FaceBook
by: Rudy

ParadigmShifting.Ning.com has been discontinued for financial reasons a while back. All the pertinent information was included in this article, though. I have started the same venue at a FaceBook group page, also called Paradigm Shifting which can be seen at this link....https://www.facebook.com/groups/513015208713463/

Thank you.

Jan 31, 2013
sherry
by: Anonymous

I really learnt a lot, thanks very much for this piece of information

Oct 27, 2010
Mayan Healing Wisdom Traditions
by: Valory

Gloria, thanks for sharing yours and your family's experiences of both illness and wonderful healings! I hear so many stories such as these, where we the people are not served by mainstream medical doctors. Yet there is so much knowledge and wisdom available to us once we open our minds and hearts to receiving it, and then taking action to care for ourselves - as your own stories reinforce - we can learn to be self-reliant healers, the Maya have been so for millennia. Thanks again for all the info and Many Blessings to you and your family in return.

Oct 22, 2010
healing remedies of the Maya Indiana of central america
by: gloria

Hello my mother and my daughter and me suffered from kidney stones even did the lithotripsy to get rid of stones went to Guatemala on vacation to visit my husbands relatives had a kidney stone attack they gave me a drink
of whole pineapple, virgin olive oil blended in mixer in half hour I passed stones and have shared this secret with many who have had wonderful success. Also they told me for diabetics who go crazy and they sedate them as they wanted to do with my mother they had her strapped down I called my brother in law he said give her a laxative to bring down ammonia in her body next day I told dr. he said no a compassionate nurse did it and mom was normal and sitting up waiting for dr. to come in next day wanting to go home. tobacco will heal bee stings,cod liver oil to stop loss of hair, shark liver oil to kill cancer cells these are Maya indian remedies from Central America. so many more. god bless gloria

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