How I got rid of my gallstones

by Rudy

In May of this year (2009), I visited the emergency room with pain in my stomach and side. The ultrasound concluded that I had gallstones. A follow up visit with my doctor only offered me the advice of having the gallbladder removed. Actually, according to the doctor, this was my only choice!

As we all know, there is always more than one way to solve any problem, and this is no exception. I told him that I wanted to use an alternative method to get rid of the stones. This was his reply:

“Well, you can do what you want, but you can get an infection and you could DIE.”

I kid you not; this is what he said to me. Well, I was doing a lot of research on the internet and found many treatments to flush the gallstones out. “You can keep your gallbladder,” they said. There were also a lot of testimonials confirming the passing of the stones. My wife also conducted extensive research on the net and came up with a treatment to follow to soften and break down the stones, then flush them out.

I followed this treatment for about three weeks and on June 14th, 2009 , I commenced the flushing of the stones. Well, just as I had read online, I am living proof that the treatment works. Yes, I passed about 100 stones and it wasn’t painful at all. They varied in size from that of a cherry tomato to shotgun pellets.

I conducted a second flush about two weeks later and flushed out another 50 stones. At this time ( July 13th, 2009 ) I haven’t conducted a third flush, but plan to in the near future. I believe that I need to do one more to be sure that all the stones have been cleared out.

Now, I will explain the method I used to get rid of my gallstones.

Well, basically, I watched what I ate and took several supplements to help soften and break down the stones prior to the flush.

I avoided fatty, greasy foods and dairy – mainly. I ate a lot of carrots. It is said that in the treatment of disease, it is important to alkalinize the body, and carrot juice has been demonstrated to rapidly achieve this objective through cleansing of the liver and improving the quality of the blood.

I also ate a lot of apples and drank apple juice. The malic acid in the apples helps soften gallstones. Remember that old adage; “An apple a day?”

I was also taking these supplements at the same time:

1. Gallbladder Support Formula (Li Dan Pian) – This I purchased at a Chinese supermarket. It contains the Chinese herb Lysimachiae (AKA Gold Coin Grass), which helps soften the gallstones. It also contains a few other herbs that possess antibiotic and anti-inflammatory qualities. I took 4 tablets, 3 times a day.

2. Peppermint oil pills – This helps dissolve and break down stones. I took 1 tablet, 3 times a day.

3. Dandelion root – This helps support the liver. The liver works in conjunction with the gallbladder. I took 2 tablets, once a day.

4. Milk Thistle – This is a liver and blood cleanser. I took 1 tablet, once a day.

After following this regimen for 3 weeks, I was ready for my flush. The 10 or so hours prior to the flush, I barely ate anything (just an apple) and drank liquids; mostly apple juice.

Before I went to bed (and they suggest you do the flush just before going to sleep), I drank ½ cup of olive oil and ½ cup of lemon juice. It is suggested that you drink the olive oil first followed by the lemon juice. If you cannot consume the entire amount in one shot, you can drink it in smaller quantities every fifteen minutes.

I drank half of each within a couple of minutes and then drank the other halves about 5 minutes later. If you feel nauseous, have some salt readily available and put a dab on your tongue. This should help take that feeling away. It helped me.

The olive oil will help lubricate your duct and allow easier passage for the gallstones. The lemon juice helps constrict the gallbladder, thus forcing the stones out.

I then went to bed, lying on my right side with my hips slightly elevated. This will help keep the olive oil and lemon juice in the gallbladder. After that, it’s just a waiting game, until you feel the urge to purge. (They come out with the fecal matter)

There was no pain associated with the passing of the stones. The greatest discomfort for me was staying in that awkward position in bed for a prolonged period of time. There are different lengths of time suggested to lay on your side from half an hour to 4 hours. I would just suggest doing it as long as you can. After my initial bowel movement, I went back to bed and laid on my right side again.

You will probably not see any stones in your first bowel movement. The second and third movements are usually the greatest with regard to stone amounts. By the fourth movement there are almost no stones (this was my experience). Since this is being done just before you go to bed, you will probably not eat. I would suggest to only drink liquids during this time and would recommend apple juice (organic and NOT from concentrate, if possible). After the process is over, you may eat something light.

It is also suggested to perform an enema before starting the flush. I would say that this is optional and did not do one myself; still achieving good results.

If anyone has any questions, don’t hesitate to ask. You can contact me by email at I may have to ask my wife for the answers since she is more knowledgeable in this area than me. Feel free to pass this along to someone you know who may be suffering from this same affliction.

Thank you for reading this and I wish you a healthy future!

Update 3/24/2013: You can find me on FaceBook - has been discontinued for financial reasons a while back. All the pertinent information was included in this article, though. I have started the same venue at a FaceBook group page, also called Paradigm Shifting which can be seen at this link....

Thank you.

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Aug 18, 2016
Advise please NEW
by: Myca

Hello. 2 years ago I had acute pancreatitis, after which a surgeon said I must have my gallbladder out. I said no at the time and have since become a vegetarian, do a lot of yoga, don't drink and changed a lot. But, I have ignored the gallbladder, hoping the problem would disappear! Sadly not! I have experienced several gallstone attacks since the surgeon said, 'this will kill you you know, I just can't say when' , his not so helpful words resonating in my mead each time. The last few months I have gotten very uncomfortable with constant pain in the 'v' area of the ribcage (ie stomach area), with pain radiating through my back and also including lumbar spine. Nausea, sweats (could be menopausal!), serious constipation, a heavy feeling below ribs and lacking any appetite seem to be constant daily experiences. Finally went back to doctor (lost trust in them previously) and had a scan... His words were 'I strongly advise you to have your gallbladder out as it has several stones'. 2 years ago the surgeon said I had in excess of 100 small stones. I recently did a liver flush after several colonics and taking herbs, foods etc to detoxify my liver etc. Not one stone from the flush.. Nothing, zilch! I felt angry and frustrated, which on a metaphysical level are stored emotions from such organs (plus others). Apparently, so I have been told, 'this can happen' ( ummm, yep it sure can seeing that was my experience). Am writing because right now I feel lost amidst this. Apparently, again on metaphysical level, the gallbladder is to do with making righteous decisions and judgements.... I have lived a life till more recently doing primarily as I have been told, against my inner hearts wish, so it does not surprise me my gallbladder is struggling so. But lacking such indecision possibly due to my poorly gallbladder, I don't know whether to trust the doc or not. I feel the gallbladder is an important organ, despite what docs say. So, has anyone had success with flushes when the first produced nothing? Has anyone had a colonic after a flush to help clear the system? If you have done a flush with, and also without a colonic, did you feel much difference? I don't know when to realise enough is enough and follow doc advice. They may be well meaning but experience has taught me they are not always right. Also to anyone who has had a gallbladder removed.... How are you without it day to day? Ideas, suggestions, experiences greatly appreciated. With love

Aug 16, 2016
Go do a follow up and THEN comment here NEW
by: Anonymous

Oh come on. I'm so sick and tired of hearing people getting an ultra sound confirming stones, but after using their personal cure of preference, we always hear, "I haven't went back to get another to see if the stones were less or completely gone". It's the same yada yada on every forum I've visited. Worthless!

Aug 11, 2016
How many flushes? NEW
by: Anonymous

First of all your doctor is clueless and probably not a natural doctor. I had to do almost 13 flushes over 2 years. They will get pushed in layers like a rock riverbed. All will not come out in 1 flush. It depends on your age and it depends on how you've eaten through the years. Cleaner eating could mean less buildup. There is no way that your galbladder can hold 100 stones. So they could also be in your pancreas. Yes!!

Aug 11, 2016
Drug treatment of gallstones NEW
by: Anonymous

I wander if anyone used Rowachol or ursodiol drugs and dissolved the stones effectively.

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Jul 14, 2016
To Julie
by: Rudy

I don't think an ultrasound would break up stones. That would be great if it did.

Jul 11, 2016
Can ultrasound scan break up gallstones?
by: Julie

A year ago I had an ultrasound scan, when I found out for the first time in decades what is causing my stomach pains, gallstones. The one the scan found was a large gallstone blocking my pancreas, and some blockages in the pancreatic ducts; bile ducts and pancreatic ducts were dilated. The strange thing was that I had been experiencing a lot of stomach pain for years, and particularly for the previous few months, and after the ultrasound scan the pain lessened. The intense burning pain went, though I still got some pain and nausea afterwards. The consultant said it is impossible that the ultrasound scan had any effect on gallstones. Anyway, the intense pain and nausea has returned over the past few months again, and I think it has a lot to do with stress. I also get a very fast heart beat and sweat heavily most of the time, which comes with an upsetting psychological sensation. A year ago pancreatitis was what the doctors were worried about. If my symptoms are more of pancreatitis than gallbladder, then it is a chronic pancreatitis that I have had for years. I suspect that I have a hereditary susceptibility to gallbladder problems, but don't have much family information.

Jul 01, 2016
Hope for Tim Again
by: Anonymous

Tim, I found a galstone flush online out of desparation and being told my galbladder was at 17% operability after Hyda test. It works. There are variations. Drink apple juice for 4 to to 5 days, 3 times a day. On last day drink olive oil and lemon juice. Look for recipes online. I am 45 now and had to do it 8 to 10 times,over 1.5 years, and now once a year. If you remove your galbladder, you will never be able to process fat normally. Depending on your age and eating habits, it will take more than one flush.

Jun 14, 2016
Flush etc
by: Tim again

Guys, I'm a big believer in natural remedies, but it seems to me that there's not really anything that gets rid of gallstones. I tend to agree that the flush is a croc, as there's not one shred of evidence it works. There should be 1000's of before and after ultrasounds showing it works but there's not. I did it and had 100's of globules, but the stones are still there. I've tried apple cider vinegar, lemon juice, coin grass, peppermint oil, still stones. I'm trying chanca piedra currently, still have stones

I'm booking another ecrp wi the specialist, if he still can't remove stones from the duct, it's coming out. Turns out both my grandparents had their gallladders out, so could be hereditary

Jun 14, 2016
To "Advice?"
by: Rudy

Hopefully, I will have some good news to share soon. I did get my ultrasound and it showed a stone 1.2 cm. The doctor said that was the only thing mentioned in the report.

Now, the question is, what was there 7 years ago? The doctor at that time didn't give me an answer, just said I needed to have my gallbladder removed. At least my current doctor isn't pushing it so hard. He actually thought my ultrasound was good news.

I did my prep period and did my flush. I haven't been back for a follow up ultrasound yet. But, what i can say is that I can eat one of my favorite foods in large quantities without a problem now (that being cheese). If I ate like this before my flush, I would be having severe pain.

So, I will post again after a follow up.

About the olive oil hoax stuff, well, you've gotta make up your own mind. I'm just relating my experience. All I can say is that I can eat stuff after my flush that I could not before.

I think it does take a while for symptoms to show up. Could be years. But, when I first started getting my pain, it was fairly often. I thought I was becoming lactose intolerant at first because it seemed to be triggered by dairy. I was taking some pills to better digest dairy and that seemed to help, up to a point. Then I ended up in the emergency room.

If you're getting the pain every day, it's probably getting pretty bad. Just really try to avoid foods that might trigger an attack, like greasy, oily food and dairy. avoid spicy food too. And drink a lot of apple juice, preferably organic and not from concentrate.

Hope this helps.

Jun 14, 2016
Not a scam
by: Anonymous

To the person who posted that these stones are not real gallstones but the result of drinking the olive oil ... wrong! I passed stones from simply doing a coffee enema and there are reports of the same thing happening to others. They look exactly like the stones people pass when they do olive oil/grapefruit cleanse. I also passed a small amount of mucoid plaque that the same type of ignorant people claim does not exist.

Jun 11, 2016
by: Anonymous

How did your ultrasound go? I'm only 18 and I've had an acute onset of symptoms in only a month. Went to the ER once, back we thought it was reflux and a panic attack. Naturopath said it was my gallbladder, but can't tell if I have stones. I'm fairly sure I do, because I can feel a "pop" when I suck in deeply and have pain in that area. Worse at night & in the morning. I've also read that "the olive oil is a hoax" ... I sure hope it isn't, as I do NOT want surgery if in ANY WAY POSSIBLE. Looking at the gold coin grass now, does this work? Thanks a bunch, so scared. :(

Also, how fast do gallstone symptoms usually come on? I hear about months and even YEARS of symptoms before things get serious, and weeks or months at a time between flare ups. I get pain almost constantly, every day.

May 26, 2016
by: Anonymous

I just had my third ERCP this year to rid my bile duct of stones. I haven't had a gallbladder for 16 yrs.

May 12, 2016
For the anonymous question
by: Rudy

"just curious, the bile duct that the stones have to pass through is a tube about 5mm in diameter..

wondering how it is possible to pass stones larger than this through it?"

I don't have an answer. I will be having an ultrasound done next Friday and see what is in my gallbladder seven years on. Whatever is there, I plan to do a flush after that and if I can swing it, I will be doing a follow up ultrasound after my flush. I have wanted to do this for years as I am asked this all the time.

May 12, 2016
Horse Sh*t?
by: Rudy

Lol. Ok anonymous genius, why don't I have problems going on 7 years now? Why don't I have any more pain after a flush (and I can eat anything, even massive amounts of the food that in a small amount would have triggered an attack)? How is it that a doctor told me 7 years ago that I had to have my gallbladder out because of the severe pain I was having? Why hasn't it gotten any worse, as these issues allegedly don't get better on their own? If I do multiple flushes in a short period of time, why is it that each progressive flush has fewer and fewer of the "globules" (as you refer to them as) with each flush even though I use the same exact amount of olive oil and lemon juice? What is it that is preventing me from having a problem with my gallbladder than? Answers, give me the answers if you're so smart. Come on. I would love to have those answers.

Valory: To anonymous horseshit - you are certainly entitled to your opinion, AND, I've allowed this opinion to remain posted.

However, I'll remind all readers that this thread is posted as a community service to offer helpful information to those who wish to consider it. We are all adults here who can use discretion, reasoning, etc. to make educated decisions about our own health.

Future postings by anonymous horseshit will be deleted unless 1) respectfully asking relevant questions regarding successful methods people have used to self-treat their health issues or 2)posting anecdotal results of methods used.

Rudy, you in no way need to defend yourself. Your efforts here are very much appreciated :)

May 11, 2016
This is horse shit
by: Anonymous

This is all horse shit! The "gallstones" this guy thinks he passed in his poop were just globules of olive oil not broken down completely. He may no longer have problems with his gallbladder...but it's not a result of.drinking olive oil. Seriously.

May 04, 2016
by: Anonymous

just curious, the bile duct that the stones have to pass through is a tube about 5mm in diameter..

wondering how it is possible to pass stones larger than this through it?

Apr 27, 2016
Ali, please email me
by: Rudy

Not sure how to answer you at the moment. Please email me and I will get right back to you. Hopefully, you see this soon.

Apr 26, 2016
vinegar and chanca piedra my experience
by: Anonymous

I saw this page and wanted to add a comment about Chanca Piedra - I have a gallstone since 2013, 6 mm, when I got diagnosed I had some pain after eating fat and bad steatorrhea (look it up!). Started non-fat clean diet, and drank apple juice with ACV every morning - for around two years I had close to no symptoms, and almost never the bad stools, but then I got some stomach burning because of all the vinegar and I had to stop. Also, I made another scan and the stone was now 7mm.
Then I decided I wanted to try something else, and found this chanca piedra tea - started January 22, immediately felt lighter and my ever-coated tongue became clean, did a scan on March 13 and the stone was 6mm. Around April I started having constant pain in the bowels like IBS, which lowered by taking probiotics. I imagined that Chanca Piedra (it's also a powerful antibacterial, and I have parasites, two birds in one stone) killed too many bugs and was killing also the good guys now, stopped taking it and immediately pain disappeared. Now I was without it for three weeks and symptoms are back, so it's time to take it again. Anyway, stone WAS smaller, although it didn't disappear.

Apr 20, 2016
Considering cleansing
by: Ali

I was diagnosed with Gallstones just over 2 years ago. I was told I would have to have my gallbladder removed. I juiced, changed my diet and didn't have any further pain other than if I had eaten something really wrong which was maybe two or three times.
For the last few months I've been really uncomfortable on and off with no real food type/ingredient for what causes the upset, so after introducing more raw food and smoothies and still suffering I went back to the doctors.

My scan today revealed that my gallbladder is FULL of gallstones. Hasn't caused inflammation yet, but it's only a matter of time.

I will happily follow a strict regime to cleanse, but just concerned that the fullness is an issue. Have you had positive feedback from someone in a situation like me? Do I just wait for the op or do I try juicing and supplements? I don't have the confidence/knowledge to do a cleanse unless I could have another ultrasound showing a dramatic difference in the lump of stones. As well as there being lots of positive stories about cleanses, there are also scary stories where things have got stuck and people have ended up in hospital.

My thought is that I book in for the op, (and be on a wait list and could take 6 months) and then while I wait, do what I can to breakdown the stones and see how I go.

Any feedback and support is welcomed.

Thank you.

Mar 22, 2016
Sent you an email, Jason
by: Rudy

Saw and replied to your email, Jason. Thanks and good luck.

Mar 19, 2016
by: Jason

Hello Rudy how are you? Thank you so much for your information its very helpful!

I have gallstones but I'm 23 so I dont want to have a surgery,instead I want to try an alternative method like you did it, so I'm drinking natual apple juice and apple vinegar, just to prepare myself for my first flush but Im thinking about buying rowachol capsules is like your Milk thistle I suppose, and the peppermint oil pills, just thats 2 products because I believe here would be difficult to find the Gold Coin, how long time do you believe a need to take the pills before the flush? And also what other thing do you recommend me to do it before the flush? Thanks for your help, hope you still good

Mar 02, 2016
To Hekate
by: Rudy

I don't know for sure if the Li Dan Pian will break down a stone that size. According to what I have researched, that herb will soften and break down gallstones. I can only suggest you seek a doctor's advice or a naturopath. With an ultrasound, I would think the doctor could tell you where the stone is and why it may not be giving you much of a problem.

I can also tell you what I experienced and continue to experience from following this regimen.

My doctor never gave me a straight answer on how many or how big my stones were. I never actually saw my ultrasound. But, I do know that I had a lot of pain. I was in bad shape. But, almost 7 years later, I still have my gallbladder and with a few flushes since 2009, I've been virtually pain free. If I do have a bit of discomfort, I do a flush and I feel great. This has been my experience.

I haven't heard of the "chanca piedra" you mentioned.

I don't know if this is much help, but I hope it helps a little. Good luck with that stone. I know how much pain these stones can cause.

Mar 01, 2016
i have a large this safe?

Hi . Thaks for posting it is very helpful. Five years ago i was diagnosed with a rather large gallstone (size of a small golf ball. I did a cleanse and a bunch of stones came out. For i while i felt good. then i had some pain and tried again. This time i think something got stuck and i had a hell of a night. It all went back to normal and the dr sait the stone was probably in a place that caused no problems. At times i felt some pressure but nothing major. Just two nights ago the pain came back and i immediately control it with 3 tbsp of Apple cidre vinegar and apple juice...Now i want to do the cleanse but im afraid the stone is too big. Does the Li Dan Pian Remedy breaks large stones? Have anyone had experience with chanca piedra, the amazonian herb? Thank you

Feb 08, 2016
To: Diet Concerns
by: Rudy

I would always steer you to your doctor for information, but I do not recall having this problem, or I may not be completely understanding your statement.

I certainly urinated more frequently, due to all the liquids I was consuming. I don't recall my stool being rather loose (which may be what you mean, I'm not sure).

I ate very bland food. Oatmeal, baked potatoes (with onions or scallions, no butter etc.), salads with no dressing. I did eat sandwiches on pita or tortillas, with tomatoes, lettuce, peppers, etc. (no meat - I am vegetarian - or cheese and maybe a smidge of mustard). Fruits and veggies. Perhaps some pasta, but no sauce, just mild spices with mixed vegetables. I also refrained from any sweets of any kind. But, I did consume starches.

There may have been the use of the smallest amount of a dressing for salad or olive oil in cooking, but was used at bare minimum. I don't remember having pain. If I would have, I would have eliminated the oil/dressing 100%.

Hope this helps.

Feb 06, 2016
Diet concerns
by: Anonymous

So I have purchased all the supplements listed in your article and began taking them as you mentioned. After few days I noticed i went to the restroom more than usual and it was more liquid than anything else. I stopped a few days and I went back to normal so wondering Was it like that for you? I really want to continue and do this flush but am concerned. What kind of foods did you eat? I also read it's helpful to eliminate flour and sugar from the diet. Were you STRICT on the low-fat diet? Any helpful info would be nice thanks.

Dec 27, 2015
Thank you Frequency Healer
by: Rudy

Thank you for your input. If pears work for you, that's great.

You mention the pectin in pears, but what I know is that it is the malic acid that helps the gallbladder and liver, which apples are very high in. Other fruits and vegetables also have malic acid, but apples have a very high percentage.

I just saw this in an article:

"Fruits in general have malic acid, but it's especially abundant in apples. Ninety-four to 98 percent of apple's total acid comes from malic acid, according to Watermelon is another great source of malic acid, with 85 to 95 percent of the total acid content. Apricots, bananas, blackberries, cherries, grapes, kiwi, lychees, mango, nectarines, oranges, peaches, pears and strawberries are other fine choices."

Although I do not know the percentage of malic acid in pears, they are obviously also a good choice.

Thanks again for the info.

Dec 27, 2015
Gall flush and pears!
by: Frequency healer

Hi Guys

Great blog and comments, generally all on the right path. Had gallbladder pain attacks and the symptoms described here - acid reflux with eustacian tube issues throat problems etc. On my Journey I found cutting out fats totally to start with for months(think it was for a year) Did the gallbladder flush, felt something moving down frequently while doing it. BUT the thing that has worked for me are PEARS! PEARS guys, I eat them all the time, breakfast dinner sometimes before bed. They help lower cholesterol, one of the causes of gallstone, have higher pectin than apples, generally improved my digestion. Incorporate pears into your diet, maintain a healthy lifestyle, by maintaining these methods mentioned here, it does work! Take care.

Nov 11, 2015
To Brandy and Other Comments
by: Deborah

My sister has problems with autoimmune disorder. She has flushed her gallbladder many times through the years with no ill effects. We like Dr. Hulda Clarks recipe, which you can easily find online. I would also suggest the parasite cleanse, plenty of pro-digestive enzymes, and cascara sagrada in addition to what the above article suggests. You need to flush toxins. TCM golden coin grass and fresh homemade apple cider are very helpful. You do need to control for infection. A good TCM Clearing Toxic Heat formula will work well along with a yeast formula. If you are so dizzy, that you are ready to lose your mind, this is caused by system back pressure and resulting acid reflux damages to your throat and esophagus. You need to keep the pressure down with a low fat diet while you are healing and work to heal the acid burns. Check your ear drums for fluid. Acid runs up the estuation tube. If this has happened pour hydrogen peroxide in your ears and let it trickle down in your ear canal to clean your ears. If you are having acid problems, remember to gargle with baking soda water before you brush your teeth. Otherwise you will be scrubbing acid into you teeth. Natural Healing is for the determined and not for wimps. It takes time and is not instant. Saving your gall bladder is important for your health for the rest of your life. Do everything you can

Nov 06, 2015
To Brandy
by: Rudy

Brandy, my wife did a flush when she had no symptoms. I am also aware of another friend of mine that did a flush, again, with no symptoms, just was curious. My wife has some issues as well with gluten and other things. Neither one had any complications. I don't see any issue in someone trying the flush who does not have any symptoms or when tests may not show stones. Just make sure to prep before the flush. Don't just do the flush.

Oct 29, 2015
Gallbladder problems suspected
by: Brandy

For years, I've had these painful attacks that run from one side of my torso to the other right over my liver. The only thing that made it feel better was ice. I had several gallbladder ultrasounds but nothing showed up so nothing was done. I have autoimmune problems so I've cut out a lot food wise, wheat/gluten, dairy, grains, nuts. Recently, I had a Zyto test done and it says all good fats are bad for me right now. No beans, nuts, avacados or almond milk. So, it is suspected that my gallbladder is having problems. Is it safe to do a gallbladder flush if you aren't certain of stones?

Sep 09, 2015
To: 9 Months of Hell
by: Rudy

That is a good question and one that I have no idea how to respond to. I'm not sure what you mean by "gallstone specialist", but a naturopath or some other alternative medicine doctor might be able to help out. Obviously, your doctor is against it. Hopefully, your doctor has some advice on how you can avoid the pain by suggesting a certain diet. I would just suggest to avoid the types of foods I mentioned above in my own experience. Apples and apple juice could help. I would hope that you could hang in there and do the flush after the birth. Best of luck to you and I wish you good health.

Sep 06, 2015
by: 9 months of hell

I am 14 weeks pregnant and my OB is refusing for the gallstone specialist to remove the stones stating it can put me into labor. I have suffered 4 excruciating, agonizing gallstone attacks and don't think I can make it till I deliver the baby. I am interested in going the natural way but concern if it is safe while pregnant to follow everything you did. Please help.

Aug 09, 2015
by: Lovely

hi can anyone please help me i did my ultrasound as requested by my dr. And he suggested to have my gallbladder removed cause i was diagnose with mild cholecystitis and with that a 1.7 cm gallstone only one was found in the neck of lumen I'm in the philippines... Can anyone help me find a way to get tid of the stone ? Is it reay helpful to eat 5 apples a day or apple juice? Were not that rich and i have 2 kids that needs me much.. Lemon here is not available even cider vinegar.. Im so worried about these all the time.. The stone i have as the doctor said is like the size of a corn can anyone suggest? Can apple really help? Can you please email me at inwould really appreciate the help

Jul 14, 2015
In reply to Anna
by: Rudy

Thank you for your opinion, Anna. If you read my above procedure, you will see that I emphasize a period of time "to soften and or break up stones", just as you advise. People should not be attempting a flush before going through this preliminary step.

I was scared when I did my first flush. Now, after a number of flushes, it doesn't bother me anymore. But, each time I do a flush, I go through a period of time to soften and break the stones down. This is very important. I cannot stress this enough.

If I run into any adverse effects from my flushes, I will certainly alert people, but after 6+ years of doing these flushes, I have not encountered any.

Jul 08, 2015
by: Anna

Doing a flush with large gallstones is VERY dangerous. There are ways to soften and or break up stones, but flushing them out all at once is incredibly dangerous. You could damage your pancreas, kidneys and become incredibly sick.

May 31, 2015
by: Laurie

Tim, your comments were very encouraging. I have been seeing a naturopath in San Antonio and have tried doing his version of a gallbladder cleanse unsuccessfully (1 cup lemon juice with 40 soy lecithin tablets). Your way prepares one slowly and you gave more details which helped me because I feel like I have been doing these cleanses "in the dark." Keep posting!

May 31, 2015
Galstone Liver Cleanse Found Online
by: Anonymous

Here is the recipe I used. Again not wanting to go to doctors due to misdiagnosing and stating my galbladder was only operating at 17% suggesting laproscopy. Again there are variations online. I captured both pigment and galstones. They were in layers. The larger were, thumbsize, did not come out until the 8th or so flush. I am in my mid 40's so I had alot!! Goodluck.
Apple Juice and Apple Cider Vinegar

Just simply drink 1 glass of pure apple juice with 1 tablespoon of apple cider vinegar.  The pain should go away within 15 mins.

Apple Juice, Epsom Salt and Olive Oil (Dr Lai Chiu Nan's, a taiwanese doctor, method of removing gallstones naturally)

My friend's husband tried this natural healing method and it actually works for him.

Within the initial 5 days, consume a minimum of 4 glasses of apple juice daily. Or alternatively consume 4 or 5 apples, whatever appeals to you. Apple juice is able to make gallstones soft. Throughout the 5 days, consume food as normal.For the 6th day, eat no evening meal.By 6 pm, ingest one tsp of Epsom salt along with a cup of lukewarm drinking water.By 8 pm, replicate the similar. Epsom salt which will help to open up the gallbladder ducts.By10 pm, consume 1 / 2 glass olive oil (or sesame oil) along with 1 / 2 glass freshly squeezed lemon juice. Combine it well and ingest it. The olive oil lubricates the gallstones to help ease their passing.

Very early subsequent morning, you can expect to encounter immediate looseness of the bowels and will eliminate your gallstones jointly along with your stools.

May 30, 2015
Thanks Tim
by: Rudy

Thank you for that info Tim.

May 30, 2015
Epsom salt
by: Rudy

Personally, I never used Epsom salt. In the six years of doing this, I've never tried it. My wife doesn't suggest to take it internally. I have never had pain with my flushes.

It is up to the individual. I do not include it in my flush and don't recommend it.

May 30, 2015
More info
by: Tim

Ok so after 3 or 4 ERCP ( think that's what the procedure is called) the doctors have removed 90% of the stones. Turns out mine are 'pigment stones' which are apparently like granite, as opposed to ' cholesterol stones' which are more like sandstone. Makes sense to me that people are having success flushing cholesterol stones out but not pigments. I've been told that you have to drink lots of GREEN apple juice for it to dissolve the stones properly

May 30, 2015
most flush recipes require epsom salt
by: Anonymous

yes!! you do. Epsom salt has many uses. It's a diuretic as well.. Read the package. It will dilate the bile duct to allow the larger stones to pass when you do the flush.

May 30, 2015
epsom salts?
by: Anonymous

you didn't have to drink the salts? and you had no pain or anything? just wondering...

May 30, 2015
Strange posts
by: Rudy

These last two comments are very strange. They sound so similar and have quite a 'spam' feeling to them with no connection to my post about Gallstones.

I find them questionable.

Valory: Definitely. I've deleted and banned the specific posters. Will continue to do so when/if any others pop up.

Feb 05, 2015
Thank you for your testimonial, Anonymous
by: Rudy

Anonymous, thank you for that testimonial. It's nice to hear a positive story.

Feb 02, 2015
This does work!!
by: Anonymous

Just to support the author and from my personal experience this can work. I used the quicker method out of disparity. They misdiagnosed me in the ultra sound and stated no galstones. I did the Hipa test where they test the galbladder and how it's operating. They stated it was only operating at 17% percent and should be at 30%. They suggested immediate Laproscopy (removal). I delayed. And it's been 2 years now. I did almost 13-15 flushes (in almost 1.5 years) and because I kept showing stones. THERE IS NO WAY THAT MY GALBLADDER COULD HOLD ALL THOSE STONES. So they can be in your liver and pancreas I believe. Your galbladder is small and pearshaped. I am 5'3" female and weigh 140 pds. But I know I didn't eat the greatest during college and military. The basic cleanse is 4 days, drink apple juice or cider 3 times a day or more, the 5th day eat light and drink epsom salt in warm water to relax and open the bile ducts, then before bed drink the half cup lemon juice and olive oil before bed.. It works!! You can use Bertoli Light Olive oil...It may work better. Thanks and Happy Health.

Dec 24, 2014
Gallstone attack relief
by: Elizabeth

Hello guys and ladies, I hope that you are doing well and are healthier. I posted below a few months ago with my gallstone story. I have discovered something that helps me every time I have a gallstone attack (which thank God I have very rarely these days). What I discovered is - when you feel the very 1st symptoms of an incoming gallstone attack, quickly take any painkiller (I usually take 1 x Co-codamol, the lowest strength one) and start drinking slowly about 150 ml apple cider vinegar! You can drink water or apple juice along with it, you can drink slower - whatever works for you. It's not so bad at all after the 1st sip. Between sips i warm up water for my hot water bottle, fill it and then tuck myself in bed. This method works for me every time, and my attacks are usually very severe and last long. By the way, the vinegar doesn't have to be expensive - mine is the cheapest one from Sainsbury' s. Good luck, I hope that helps you all. Merry Christmas! :)

Dec 24, 2014
Fat anf Gallstone/bile
by: Anonymous

I was diagnosed with gallstones when I was 14 years old. The doctor was so crazy to not know how to diagnose my pain that told my mother my stomach was shrinking and it would cause severe medical conditions (tell me about it) before saying this he asked a lot of exams including a endoscopy which is painful, but no ultrasound ( great doctors we have). In one of the attacks after this crazy doctor, I end up in the emergency room and one of the young doctors that attend me said was gallstones just by pressing my abdomen on the right upper side, and after ultrasound - it was. So, I never remove my gallbladder... I didn't want to go under surgery, and still don't want to. Actually years after that my friend's wife died on the table removing the gallbladder, so there's no way surgery is an option by free will. Now I'm 29 years old, so in 15 years the only bad times was around the discovery between 14/15 years old, I also remembering taking coke/lime/olive oil for 3 mornings in a row advice from my all natural nutritionist aunt. And it the episodes disappeared, and knowing the pain, I probably had some episodes very far apart in the following years, but now with 29 I am having the crises again, and more and more I believe that stones appears when people follow a low fat diet, or don't eat for large periods of time. If you think about it, bile forms stones because stay stagnated for too long, or maybe for high cholesterol content, anyway, eating good fats should maintain your bile constantly in use, and the complete emptying of the gallbladder in between meals. When we don't eat fat, and more carbs and sugar, the gallbladder don't need to use all the bile, and the liver is going to produce and stock it anyway. So again I'll try to get rid of this stones without surgery, but I'll definitely look out for a increased good fat diet after I succeed, so I constantly use my bile and don't form new stones.

Dec 23, 2014
Flush x Dissolving
by: Anonymous

First I'd like to say that this method might work, BUT olive oil and lime do not pass inside the gallbladder. All they can do is make liver produce more bile, they would only go into the liver by blood, food only pass from stomach to small intestine where the bile meets food trough the small bile duct. I'm also not sure if the big stones you're seeing are actually stones or olive oil hardened by the process, what I do believe you can find a way to melt stones, or pass small stones when ducts are dilated.

Dec 08, 2014
Thank you Anonymous T
by: Rudy

Thank you for the information. I will look into that myself.

Dec 08, 2014
To Mark
by: Rudy

I am so sorry for not getting back here for such a long time. It could feel like a lot of gas with gallstones and I have heard about people having shoulder pain, although I have not really experienced the shoulder pain myself. It usually feels like you have a full stomach and it starts to hurt like a stomach ache. I will feel it all around my mid-section and into my back. When the pain is really intense, it feels like I'm clenching up my abdominal muscles, even though I may not be doing it physically. I cannot confirm that that is what you have, but it sounds like it could be. An ultrasound would tell you for sure.

Oct 07, 2014
Recurring stones and Omega-3 fatty acids
by: Anonymous T

This type of cleanse has helped me, but the stones would keep coming back. My gallbladder seems to be stagnant and slow. I have done many of these cleanses. The fresh grapefruit juice was the easier way to get down the oil, drink with a straw and drink fast.
I often throw up, but still get out stones most of the time. Once I got out a huge stone about 2 inches long, and bigger around than my thumb.
But I still had a struggling gallbladder. It will often feel tight and I get bloating and gas. If I take lemon juice, peppermint oil, grapefruit, or sauerkraut liquid, I will feel better until the next time I have a big meal.

What I wanted to share is that I have been reading about the deficiency of omega-3 fatty acids and our extreme excess of omega-6 fatty acids that makes the omega-3 deficiency problem even worse. I read that the omega-3 fats will help the cholesterol not form stones in the gallbladder. A deficiency of omega-3 fats will make them form more.

People who get plenty of omega-3 have much less chance of gallstones. Especially do not use the omega-6 oils like sunflower oil, corn oil, soy oil, etc. as those omega-6 fats make it worse.

It might be something to check into. I think I feel better already taking the flax seeds, but time will tell to see if the gallstones will stop forming. I already did see some yellow in the toilet indicating that maybe some broken stones have come out (that's what I'd see after a cleanse with the stones).

Do some reading on omega-3 and try some ground flaxseed or flaxseed oil or fish oil.

Sep 29, 2014
Gallstone or what?
by: Mark

Hi Rudy,

This is what I feel since then, a pain in upper right back and went to shoulder blade, and with heartburn also, is this really a gallstone? please confirm. thank you, I'm really experiencing pain for several day, can barely sleep well in the night.

Aug 08, 2014
Thanks for the info, Elizabeth
by: Rudy

Thank you for that information Elizabeth. Always new things to think about and learn. Appreciate it.

Aug 03, 2014
Coconut oil ???
by: Paul

I have been healthy my whole life (67) and did not experience any pain until I started taking coconut oil daily. Could the coconut oil have brought on the gallbladder problems. I know everyone says it is not taken up in the bile like other oils but I have my doubts. Anyone have any input?

Aug 01, 2014
Coconut Oil
by: Valory

Hi All! Just wanted to mention coconut oil here because even though it is an oil, it is not digested with bile. So, if you're experiencing gallbladder attacks and are working to heal yourself, but aren't quite there yet, and would like to still include a healthy fat in your diet, you may want to give coconut oil a try. (organic and raw preferably of course :)I use lots of it! Though I must admit that I also now eat quite a bit of other fats as well without any real problem including avocados and nuts. Nuts used to give me terrible problems!
Something to think about if you eat animal products, (which I do) is to consider switching to grassfed/pastured dairy, eggs and meat. Pastured beef tends to be on the leaner side but I've been eating butter and whole milk products from pastured cows and eggs from pastured chickens without any problems for a while now. At all costs, stay away from 'bad' fats! The canola, corn, soybean etc oils, anything hydrogenated, any fats from standard factory farmed animals, you get the picture. Coconut oil is the way to go and then using a little olive oil for when coconut just won't do - like on salads. Coconut oil has so many wonderful health benefits. But, if you're not already eating it, try just a little at first and see how your body manages it.

Jul 31, 2014
by: Elizabeth

Yes, that's right there's a lot of information online too, even thought I wouldn't trust everything I read, plus the pharmaceutical companies and health shops love blowing up the effects of their "miracle" products.
You can start with 1-2 things and see how your body (& gallbladder) agree with them. Don't forget to avoid the foods that cause you the gallstone attacks and cut on fat. :) Good luck!

Jul 31, 2014
by: Anonymous

Thank you! There is more info all the time on the internet. Last year I could find so little and now there are so many things to try. Gold Coin Grass, chanca piedra, everything you posted, esp. Soya lecithin. I've dealt with my g.b. issues for almost a decade and there was little to no help I could find. Now i dont even know what to try first lol!

Jul 31, 2014
Oops, I gave you the wrong e-mail address
by: Elizabeth

Sorry about that, I missed a letter yesterday when I typed my e-mail address here. The correct one is: Cheers.

Jul 30, 2014
Hello again... :)
by: Elizabeth

Hi there Anonymous,
I've tried to put together a short list of all I am doing, but if it's not clear and/or you have other questions, please ask.
So, I take the following: dry birch leaves infusion - 3 times a day, 30 min-1 hour before eating; soya lecithin (1,000-1,200 mg) capsules - 1 every morning with food; dried rosemary capsules - 1-2 once a day, with food; ordinary vitamin C (100-200 mg) once or twice a day, with food and ordinary multivitamins (mine are not even the expensive ones and still do the work! ;) ). Additionally, I increased my water intake to 2 litres - 2.5 litres a day, I started using Himalaya salt, I cut off all dairy - milk, eggs, cheeses (as they seem to make gallstone attacks worse and cause all sorts of allergic reactions). Occasionally though, I do buy feta/Greek/Salad cheese, but if you get some don't forget to soak and keep it in water in the fridge, because it's quite salty. When I'm dying for something sweet, I usually have some honey. I also increased my usage of lemons - lemon juice is very good! :) I put it in water, soups, sometimes even stews, haha. I have a list of foods (some given to me by a doctor), some I have researched myself, which I have tried and so far are agreeable with my gallbladder. This is all I could think of. Again, please note that I am NOT a doctor - even if the remedies/herbal supplements have been recommended to me by doctors, pharmacists and people with gallstones. If anyone's interested or wants to know/ask more, you could e-mail me at: Hope this helps. :)

Jul 29, 2014
Thank you Elizabeth
by: Anonymous

Elizabeth could you give specifics on amounts and regimens of your remedies you have been using? Thank you!

Jul 29, 2014
I have gallstones too - this is what I do...
by: Elizabeth

Hello everyone, four months ago, after what I initially thought was very acute food poisoning and after two months of visiting different doctors, having constant & very painful attacks and being misdiagnosed (with having stomach ulcer), I was sent for a stomach scan. They discovered that I, indeed have several gallstones and that the largest one is 9.3 milimeters big. I was stunned. The good news was that I didn't seem to have any other problem. The bad news - I was told to go straight for an operation, after a consultation with my GP. She was clueless (I am trying not to use the word "useless" here) and didn't provide me with ANY information on what I could, or should eat, what changes do I have in order to improve/solve the problem, let alone offer me an alternative to having an operation. With the help of my family, friends, other doctors (in a different country), talks with pharmacists, etc, I did some research and found out that there are other ways of managing the problem and avoiding an operation. This is the place to mention that I am a bit over-weight and in my case eating unhealthily for the past 9 years and putting the weight on caused the problem with the gallstones.
What I did was change the way I was eating, drinking plenty of water and taking herbal remedies (I suppose you could call 'em that). The ones I have been so far are taking: dried birch leaves infusion, dried rosemary capsules, lecithin, Vitamin C. After around 3 weeks of starting to drink just the dried birch infusion, drinking water and changing what I eat, I had a second stomach scan abroad, which showed that the biggest stones now are between 4-6 milimetres (compared to 9.3 milimetres the month before). A doctor there said that I should still have the operation, but I am going to wait and see if there are any results. I'm hoping to go for another stomach scan in a couple of months time and see if there is any difference in the size and the number of the gallstones.
To me, what I am taking currently and of course, changing what and how I eat helps - I feel better overall, my skin cleared, I don't feel bloated and MOST importantly - I haven't had an attack in nearly 2.5 months, which I am sure you all know is a huuuge relief, as my attacks were excruciatingly painful. I will post-pone having an operation (which they have scheduled me for) and I will observe myself in the next few months and see how it goes. I am sharing what works for me atm, and if it gives you an idea or helps you in some way, I'll be glad. The gallstone problem seems to be quite common, but very painful and unpleasant! Good luck! :)

Jul 26, 2014
by: Tim

I was diagnosed with gallstones this year and was in agony. I'm a firm believer in natural health and tried the flush 3 times.In my opinion, the flush didn't/doesn't work.

I now have multiple stones compacted in the bile duct and have undergone 2 endoscopy procedures, failed both times

By the time you have gallstone pain, it means they're most likely blocking the duct. I did pass some big green things, but I believe it was soap from the olive oil and lemon juice. The specialist I'm seeing did admit that lecithin does reduce stone size, so maybe follow up on that, but please take care doing this flush

Jul 19, 2014
Truth is in between
by: Peter D

Whether the flush works or not, I think it is reasonable to say that the truth is somewhere in between. It seems that the saponification does occur as a result of chemical reactions of elements involved in the flush, and most stones are a product of saponification. BUT, it is highly likely that the flush does stimulate gallbladder to expel real stones. If stones are smaller, the flush will work well, based on statements provided by Rudy and others. However, if stones are big then it will either not work or push the stones into ducts where they can get stuck and cause serious problems. So, as with everything, there is a bit of risk that flushing involves, but a proper assessment of individual circumstances helps in choosing the right option.

Jul 04, 2014
Thank you Rudy
by: Anonymous

I am excited to hear about the Chinese medicine. I have suffered from stones and several severe attacks that sent me to the e.r. with fevers and vomiting and intense childbirth-like pain. I have avoided/refused surgery since my diagnosis in 2004. The olive oil flush has always scared me. I do the apple products. Also was going to order malic acid powder on amazon soon. I find heating apple juice to also be beneficial. As well as lying on heating pad. On the note of diet, I have found that bedides foods with cholesterol, gassy foods can be horrific. Your system is backed up with stones and resulting inflammation and constipation. So if just avoiding cholesterol isn't working consider cutting broccoli, onions, asparagus, beans etc. Also I have found using beano and lactaid can help with these symptoms. Also drink a ton of water. And with the addition of organic apple cider vinegar to water, even better. But I am eager to look into Chinese medicine. I can tell my overall health and well being is being affected from my decade of gb issues. I was also diagnosed with liver tumors and swear there is a connection. Thanks again!

Jul 03, 2014
Gallstones Proof by ultrasound
by: Jeff

I'd also be very interested to know if anyone has done a before and after ultrasound to see if the gallstone flush had cleared away any stones and how much.

Jun 23, 2014
by: Daniel

Has anyone here who previously had an ultrasound which showed the gallstones in the gallbladder, and after performing the flush, actually had another ultrasound done to CONFIRM there are no more stones?

I have stones and tried many flushes. My stones are actually many and quite small. When I went for a second ultrasound the stones were INDEED THERE.

I was also told that Apple juice does not actually dissolve anything since there is not way for something orally taken to actually reach the gallbladder.

So... has someone here actually confirmed by ULTRASOUND that the stones are INDEED GONE?

Thank you, I am very much wanting to get rid of mine. The only alternative to surgery seems to be ursodeoxycholic acid which (IF IT WORKS), could take close to 9 months to complete.

Jun 16, 2014
To Achotee
by: Rudy

Achotee, can you please tell me the name of the herbs you were given, if you were told specific names? This would really help out.

May 29, 2014
Traditional chinese medicine
by: Achotee

I have been struggling with gallbladder attacks since March,2014. I finally got an attack that sent me to the doctor. He told me to immdiately go to the ER and have my gallbladder removed. I went to a Tradition Chinese Medicine practitioner and he prescribed some herbs. They were amazing. I was eating food that I had to avoid because of the attacks. I was previously drinking up to a 1/4 apple cider vingar after meals. This is my second week of the herbs and I am already passing a bunch of small stones. I highly recommend to anyone to talk to a TCM practioner. It has made a tremdous diffence. Thank you for sharing your experience too.

May 27, 2014
gall bladder stone treatment
by: Anonymous

what drugs can be in the treatment of gallstone bladder

May 09, 2014
Olive oil and lemon juice
by: Rudy

I was asked how many times to do the olive oil and lemon juice. After the initial 2 to 3 week prep period, you will consume 1/2 cup olive oil and 1/2 cup lemon juice. This is only done once per flush. Do not do this several times in a day or several times over a few days. This is a one time deal per flush.

May 07, 2014
by: Anonymous

how many times a night do i do the olive oil and lemon juice every night or what

Apr 19, 2014
gall stones
by: Anonymous

Hi Rudy and thank you so much, i am much better these days since watching my diet and not eating much at nights except some probiotic yoghurt, i am eating some apples and having apple juice for about 3 days now, i will continue eating and drinking the juice as well for another two weeks or so and then do the flush, i am still having constipation problems so i eat some fibre but not helping, i am also adding lots of water in between my meals to help with this, so i hope it comes right soon, i will definately write to let u know how the flush went, and just to mention that a lady 'melted' my gallstones online, hope i dont sound crazy lol but ever since she did this with me over skype i have not had to take my painkillers :) i guess its mind over matter as well :) take care and il write again soon

Apr 19, 2014
To: help!!!!! by Anonymous
by: Rudy

I was told something very similar by my doctor and no longer see him. Actually, I haven't been back to the doctor for this problem since 2009. I cannot tell you 100% that this works. With everything I've experienced, it seems to work for me. I will be able to go to the doctor soon (getting some money back from taxes) and I will see about getting an ultrasound. This may finally be the ultimate evidence I need in my arsenal. If, by any chance there are stones, then I plan to do a flush and go back for a follow up ultrasound and see what the results are. Please email me at for more detailed info. Also, there are times when this surgery is necessary, it's just that these doctors do it all the time and 90% of the surgeries are not needed.

Apr 19, 2014
To: Anonymous Sally Ann
by: Rudy

Anonymous Sally Ann: I have outlined above what I took, why I took it and how much. Is it ok to also take the cataflam? My honest answer is that I don't know. I know that what I took worked for me and I didn't have any pain as long as I was eating as I outlined above. No fatty greasy food and no dairy. Also I was reminded about not eating anything spicy (which isn't listed above, partly due to the fact that I don't eat spicy food anyway). I never had the pain as long as I ate like this. Perhaps there is something that is still giving you a problem and it could be the soup if it is oily. When I did my flush, I never had any pain. This is my own personal experience any time I've done the flush. For your prep period, I highly recommend the Gallbladder Support Formula (Li Dan Pian). I was able to get this at a local Chinese supermarket. If you cannot find this product, send me an email at the address at the end of this post and I will help you find it. And the other thing that I think really helped me was plenty of apples and apple juice.

Apr 13, 2014
by: Anonymous

I went in for surgery on April 10th 2014. Something didn't feel right about having my gallbladder removed. I was so scared. My doctor got mad and told me he refused to do my surgery. But he also said I would die if I didn't get it taken out. I'm not a fan of medicine either. I don't even take tylenol for headaches. Please tell me there that's does work 100%. I've already tried radishes, beets and pear juice rraw.lets just say it wasn't going. Please help I'm stressed.

Apr 13, 2014
gall stones
by: AnonymousSally Ann

hi everyone, i am a 56 yr old female, have much stress in my life/environment, have been suffering for many years with indigestion, used to get it normally after eating fatty rich food, suffer with pain for 6 to 8 hours then finally bringing up and later the pain goes away, in the last month i have been having such severe pain with no vomiting, the last attack lasted almost 24 hours with no vomiting, went to see my doc and did a scan and gallstones were sighted, i have to go back and see my doc yet since the scan, i really dont want to have the operation, so ive been doing research on the net and came across ure page, my question is that i am so so afraid of severe pain while i am going to do the flush in about 3 weeks time, can i still take the painkillers i am on now, i self medicated myself coz my doctor didnt give me any painkillers, he just gave me some scopex, adco antacid and omeprazole, which was not helping at all, so i took some cataflam tablet one day and whooo what a relief i got from the pain, i have stopped taking the tablets from the doc coz they were not doing anything, i have lost 6kgs already coz i am mostly on soft foods and soup, i really want to do the flush in 3 weeks time but i am so afraid of the pain without my painkillers but im just gonna do it coz what is one night of pain compared to the operation? il let u know how it goes, thank u for all the information on here it really really helped me so much, thank you

Mar 26, 2014
Stones after gallbladder surgery
by: Rudy

I have heard of people still getting stones even after the gallbladder is removed. I have a couple of friends who had their gallbladders removed many years ago and complained of diarrhea for years afterword.

Mar 26, 2014
To Anita
by: Rudy

The olive oil and lemon juice have never made me throw up, but everyone is different. I would wait a month before doing another flush. Don't forget to do your prep work before the flush.

Mar 22, 2014
gallbladder out still having problems
by: Anonymous

Had lapo gallbladder surgery in june 2013. Its now march 2014 . I have had four big attacks that felt just like my previous gallbladder attacks. I think the stones getting stuck are coming directly from my liver. Im severely bloated daily from my belly button on up. I am not happy with this situation. I guess my theory is the stones come from the liver. Ive talked to several other oeople who also had this problem after their surgery. Frustrating!!!!!!

Mar 21, 2014
by: Anita

After I drank the juice and oil I went to sleep. Two hours later I woke feeling ill I ran to the bathroom and vomited 4 times. I went back to bed. No stones all day! When can I do another flush? The EPROMs salts worked really well I think my bowel is now empty.

Feb 09, 2014
Apple Juice - answer to anonymous
by: Rudy

I would say that pure apple juice would be best. Would a "from concentrate" work? I would say yes, but, organic, not from concentrate would be best.

Jan 30, 2014
Good thing I found this
by: Rabitto29

thank god I found this, I was diagnose with acute cholecystitis, the doctor said I have to undergo surgery :( hopefully this will help me. I'll be getting a second opinion from another hospital and do a followup ultrasound once I've done this. :)

Jan 30, 2014
thanks for the tip!
by: Anonymous

Hey thanks for this idea! I'm gonna try this as even I get attacked by biliary colic now and then.. and d do. suggested gall bladder removal..could u tell tell if this wud b effective If I'm taking apple juice from concentrate.. not organic..cos I get only that in ease...

Jan 05, 2014
As Valory says...
by: Rudy

Take what is said here in this blog and comments and research it further for yourself. All I can say is how it's worked for me and was hoping it would help others as well. I have not been able to verify my success with a doctor, but all I can say is that I feel much better than I did nearly 5 years ago now. Thank you Valory.

Dec 19, 2013
Getting rid of Gallstones - the natural non surgical way
by: Anonymous

Hi, I was having these pains in my stomach that started in Winter 2013 Australia and so i had these Aldi (supermarket) headache/pain tablets and so i took those and noticed the pain in my stomach went away. This pain has happened to me a few times this year and only last for 2 or 3 hours. As it turns out it was gallbladder stones :(, as I had only had my wisdom teeth out last week Friday 13 December 2013 I was in pain. As i am a reasonably healthy person i would never of assumed it would gallbladder stones. Though as since 2006 i have been trying to get rid of the gained weight i have put on. As even before i was diagnosed with gallbladder stones I was going to start eating healthier and exercising more in the middle of January 2014. As i am reasonably healthy I’d rather have the stones get rid of the natural way do these remedies actually work as my doctor said there was really nothing to get rid of them in the way of medication and so Id rather research ways to get rid of gallstones without having the operation, though i haven’t seen the main doctor who specialises in these issues yet so I’m praying and hoping to god that I don’t want to have the operation yet, or even have to have it done next year when my parents won’t be here as they’ll be in Europe for a year.

Valory adds: the many generous readers have contributed quite a bit of information through their comments on this matter. I'd suggest reading through the information here, do some extra research on the topic and then, if you still have questions, find a good naturopath in your area to consult.

Dec 16, 2013
Some thoughts (continued)
by: Rudy

"The Flexner Report was a very useful tool commissioned by oil magnate John D. Rockefeller. Rockefeller had made a massive fortune with Standard Oil and was setting his sights on gaining a monopoly in the drug and pharmaceutical industry. However, first he had to get rid of the competition, which consisted of natural non-allopathic healing modalities – naturopathy, homeopathy, eclectic medicine (botanical and herbal medicine), holistic medicine, etc. Hemp was also a threat to his plans, since cannabis has tremendous medical benefit – it can be used to alleviate pain for numerous diseases and even has anti-cancer properties.

Rockefeller paid Abraham Flexner to visit all the medical schools in the US at that time. He released the so-called “Flexner Report” in 1910, which called for the standardization of medical education and concluded there were too many doctors and medical schools in America. Rockefeller then used his control of the media to generate public outcry at the findings of the report – which, by means of the classic elite strategy of “Problem, Reaction, Solution” as David Icke calls it, ultimately led Congress to declare the AMA (American Medical Association) the only body with the right to grant medical school licenses in the United States. This suited Rockefeller perfectly – he then used the AMA (which may be better called to the American Murder Association due their widespread use and endorsement of toxic vaccines, drugs, chemotherapy and radiation) to compel the Government destroy the natural competition, which it did through regulating medical schools.

The AMA only endorsed schools with a drug-based curriculum. It didn’t take long before non-allopathic schools fell by the wayside due to lack of funding. Thus, Rockefeller had his monopoly on drugs, and Big Pharma was born – and has only grown bigger and more terrible since, now routinely bribing doctors to prescribe their toxic and side effect-laden pills, not to mention their autism-causing vaccines. Rockefeller, the AMA and Big Pharma are now all key aspects of the NWO (New World Order), but it all started with the Flexner Report."

Rockefeller himself never went to allopathic doctors but rather used naturopaths etc. Think about it; the man who was responsible for creating the American Medical Association (AMA) never went to a doctor that was licensed by that very institution. People need to do some research on the allopathic medicine industry and what it's really all about. There is a lot that these allopathic doctors do not know.

Dec 16, 2013
Some thoughts
by: Rudy

I have not yet gone back to the doctor for a follow up visit for an ultrasound of my gallbladder. I want to do so in the near future, but I have other things going on financially right now that is prohibiting it.

As far as for Anna's comment; everyone needs to do what they feel is best for them. I would have to say that my situation is nothing like hers. Even when I went to the emergency room almost 5 years ago, I didn't get sick. I have been virtually pain free for all this time. It is a choice and everyone has to make their own.

I do have to say that doctors don't know everything and allopathic treatment (modern medical doctors) was not the standard just over a hundred years ago. John D. Rockefeller ran a campaign to crush alternative modalities which were very much mainstream back then. Here is an article which explains this: (See other post, too mant characters for one post)

Dec 12, 2013
Just do the surgery while it's not a emergency
by: Anna

I had many attacks from my gallbladder for 7 years. I'd be fine for several months and then I'd be sicker than a dog throwing up and terrible pain. I found that apple juice for several days helped me to feel better. Also drank two teaspoons of vinegar in glass of water helped with pain twice a day. But, unfortunately, it wasn't enough. I got so bad that I had my gallbladder lapo surgery June 2013. I had fever for two weeks and was sicker than a dog. My gallbladder was so inflamed that it ruptured during surgery. Don't take this risk. Just do the surgery and get better. I almost died from waiting too long. It can cause pancreas as problems or even death. Listen to the drs.

Nov 19, 2013
by: Anonymous

have you gone back to the doctor and had another ultrasound or cat scan done to verify that the gall stones are gone?

Nov 01, 2013
Thanks and response to Bijaya
by: Rudy

Thank you Alyssa for your comment. As you stated, after flushes, I am able to tolerate anything that would have caused me severe pain before. There certainly are alternatives, and what I did may not be for everyone.

Bijaya, if you decide to do this, please follow the entire regimen. You need to break down and soften the stones first. In the flush, you must take the oil and lemon juice, both are necessary. Thank you for your interest.

Oct 23, 2013
by: Bijaya G

Encouraging post.
I have a single stone. 3.2 cm .is it possible to pass that big a stone using olive oil only?

Oct 18, 2013
Which medicine is the quack medicine?
by: Alyssa

I normally don't comment on the web, but felt the need to chime in. I never knew I had gallstones until 2010, 3 months after having my daughter when I had a horrific gallbladder attack and wound up in the hospital for 3 days. The only thing keeping me alive was the morphine, because those were 3 days of my life of being practically unconscious. The ER doctor thought I was just having an ulcer and everybody ran around like a chicken with their head cut off. Thank God it wasn't something more severe because an ulcer was far from it. I walked away and didn't notice any pain until earlier this year 2013. My gallbladder area hurt while working out or after eating fatty foods so I went to my PCP who nonchalantly said well lets do a sono and see if its your gallbladder and if so we'll take it out. I like how its no big deal to conventional medicine to take things out because to me if we're born with it I can't fathom organs being deemed unnecessary.

Long story short I saw a surgeon in high hopes that he may be able to give me options, but who in short only gave me one and told me that there was nothing that I could do. I was set up for surgey and felt trusting of my surgeon and surgery itself, but not removing my organ because if I did so there would be no going back. Something inside of me told me (I claim it was the cosmos, God, higher power, whatever) to not do it. To find a Chinese Medicine doctor and give it a try. I studied TCM in college and held it in high regards but never considered it until now.

Well I'm happy to report that in under two weeks, 1 acupuncture round, and a daily digestion of Chinese herbs that my pain is almost gone. I tried to push it by eating fatty stuff for a few days that normally would have me crawling into bed just to see and still no pain. My practitioner intends to follow through with more acupuncture and herbs to soften the gallbladder for a few months and eventually do a flush. It is amazing to feel empowered and in control of my body, as well as have a doctor sit with me for an hour and half just to discuss my body, anatomy, and physiology. All I could ever get from my conventional doctors was the explanation that removing the organ was the only way to go on. My TCM doctor has explained everything that has happened, what is going on, and how I can change it. I'm not knocking modern medicine, we have made countless advances, but in times like these it makes me want to ask-who is the real quack?

I'm also to hear people having awful experiences naturally attempting to heal themselves. I think if you have a case like mine where your stones are large or completely filling the gallbladder (mine are) than it would be in your best interest to seek out a naturpathic, Chinese Medicine, or holistic doctor first in addition to this information here.

Sep 29, 2013
Did the flush too but..
by: Anonymous

Hi, really interested in reading your post and happy that the flush worked on you or maybe because of the other meds/supplements your taking. I too was diagnosed to have gallstone last January 2006. Since then I keep researching on what to do since I don't also think that surgery is the best answer. I researched the food that i should eat and what not to eat. And just like you, apple juice and eating apples and low fat diet were what i eat. Basing from my experience i only have gall attacks if i ate too much greasy or oily food. 2010 I had an attack again and had an ultrasound again from .4mm 2006 utz. my stone grew to.7mm. I still didn't thought of surgery, I still went on with the apple juice diet and low fat food. But being human still i get tempted and eat this fatty foods again. By 2011 I had a gall attack again, this time more painful from the previous attack. I undergo utz again stones this time is already. still not on to surgery, I opted for the flush. I did different sizes of green stones too but noticed that these stones melt. After the flush I did feel better even after eating fatty food but not much of it. What's wrong with me was i never had a utz after the flush. But just these Sept. 9, 2013, I had a gall attack with pain I can never imagine. It was so painful that I'm afraid to close my eyes cause I may not be able to open it again. I asked my husband to take me to the hospital, At first I didn't inform the doctor that I have gallstones, I was injected with medicine for stomach pain which I use to ask every time I had an attack but this time it didn't work. The doctor had to admit me because of the pain. So I was injected for pain again and after an hour I felt okay, Afraid to undergo such pain again. I told the doctor that I have gallstone so he told me if I am willing to undergo surgery. And yes because I got tired of the flush, the surgery was then scheduled. And as I was preparing for the surgery I undergo alot of lab tests and yes UTZ(Ultrasound) again and I found out that my stone size ranges 1.0 to 1.3cm already. And just this Sept. 16, 2013, I had my gall bladder removed and know what I found, the stones that were taken from me(5 stones) with sizes 1.0cm+ was much different from the stones i passed during the flush. Stones were hard and colored a little black and pigmented red. I posted this that whoever can read might learn or somehow help in your decision to make. 7 years was a long time for me to decide too.
thank you.

Aug 18, 2013
Anecdotal Comments
by: Valory

Thanks Rudy for your thoughtful comments and helpful answers to the many excellent questions asked here on the subject of gallstone removal. I know this dialog has helped a lot of people to, at the very least, rethink their available options when they were delivered the same diagnosis as you were - and as I was as well, back in the 90's.
I did not know about the gallstone flush back then. But neither did I simply accept what my doctor was telling me was my only option - surgery - as fact. I asked a LOT of questions. I researched as best I could on the topic (at the time, I lived high in the Colorado Rockies and the internet was pretty new and consisted of long distance telephone charges to log online back then :), but mainly, I simply KNEW that other options must be available, I just had to learn what they were.
Although my doctor was firmly entrenched in the AMA mindset, he ultimately did listen to my concerns and reasoning and, with some exasperation, recommended a local acupuncturist. He also asked if I was willing to try a Chinese medicinal herbal blend a colleague had recently told him about.
After more questions, I agreed to try both.
He was admittedly surprised when, during a follow up ultrasound sometime later, my gallstones had disappeared.
My point here is two-fold - it's important to keep an open mind even as we educate ourselves (and in some cases, our medical practitioner as well :) and take responsibility for our own healing experience. This does not mean naively accepting every bit of information that comes our way without question. However, much anecdotal information is certainly worthy of consideration.
Most of the comments shared here are anecdotal. They seem to be offered with the best of intentions and goodwill at heart. Sharing our experiences, what's worked for us, or not, sharing information we've read about in articles, asking questions, etc., it's all good :)
Thank you all for your wonderful comments, questions and sharings here. We remain heart-centered.

Aug 18, 2013
Hmmm.....something to think about
by: Rudy

Let me first clear up an inaccuracy. I did not have any stones as large as a golf ball. I never stated that, so I don't know where that's coming from. I did say cherry tomato, and there were only two "close" to that size. Most were the size of shotgun pellets. You could easily fit 150 of those in your gallbladder.

The fact is that there is nothing to suggest that the flush doesn't work. I have heard about the oil and lemon juice combining and curdling to form "pseudo stones". I can neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of this claim, but it really has little significance even if it is true. Here are some points to ponder...

1. After doing a flush, some people report not passing any stones. If the oil and lemon juice allegedly always create stones, then this runs opposite to that claim.

2. Ingesting the same amount of oil and lemon juice results in vastly different amounts of stones. My wife and I can verify that.

3. When I have done consecutive flushes, fewer and fewer stones are flushed out. (Again, while ingesting the same amounts of oil and lemon juice, hmmmm?)

4. I was in extreme pain and was told by my doctor over four years ago that I had to have my gallbladder out. These things only get worse, according to doctors, so I would expect to be in really bad shape or have had my gallbladder removed in emergency surgery by now, neither of which is even remotely the case. Before a flush I would have severe pain if I had greasy fatty food or dairy. After the flush I can eat anything I want without any problem. Does this sound like it doesn't work?

5. How long before a bad case of gall stones (if none were ever removed) becomes a problem. 5 years? 10 years? I'm still waiting.

I have done a few flushes since my initial 3, four years ago for preventative maintenance or because I was feeling slight discomfort. I have never had nearly as many stones come out in these later flushes. I do plan to go to the doctor at some point for another ultrasound to finally 100% verify what I'm saying.

So, regardless of what people say about these "pseudo stones" being created, I know that the flushes work for me. Personally, I don't need any more proof. Any further proof would be for the benefit of those who have not done the flush yet.

Aug 18, 2013
Pain pills
by: Rudy

I don't see why you couldn't take pain pills during the prep period. Just make sure your prep period is no shorter than 2 weeks. I would even suggest 3 weeks. That's what I did my first time.

Aug 16, 2013
by: Anonymous

can you take pain pills during the preparation phase (5-6 days drinking apple juice) of a gallstone flush?

Aug 13, 2013
by: Mike

There's just one problem with all of this: there is no evidence that it works and more evidence that the "stones" you are flushing out are nothing more than olive oil that has hardened during the digestive process. The gallbladder is a very, very small organ and it would be impossible for there to be 150 stones in it ranging in size from a golf ball to a pebble, it's just not possible for all that to fit in there. If you did this flush every day for a year, you would have 150 "stones" every day. Fact is this simply does not work to remove gallstones and there is no evidence to say that it does.

Aug 06, 2013
For those with complications
by: Valory

May I suggest seeking recommendations for a good naturopath or other health practitioner who works with alternative/holistic healing methods in your area?

Aug 04, 2013
In Response to Recent Posts
by: Rudy

It is disheartening to hear when this method does not work for people. It is hard to say why, when I have no details as to what exactly was done. I can only say, as I have done so here before, it has worked for me every time. And once again, I stress that the prep work leading up to the flush is VERY important and should not be done for less than 2 weeks (I'd even suggest 3 weeks). Ultimately, it is each individuals choice in the end after weighing their options and researching the information.

As for the person with the pancreas issue. I cannot advise you medically there. I really do not have an answer for you except to say to get your doctor's advice. While the majority of gallbladder removals are unnecessary, sometimes it is the only way to go and I just don't know enough to give you any better advice. I do wish you the best of luck and health.

Aug 03, 2013
Scared to try your method!
by: Anonymous

I presently am suffering from gallstones and really apprehensive about using your method. Nevertheless I want to avoid gallbladder surgery at all cost! My apprehension is caused by being hospitalized for nine 9 days recently, with pancreatitis. Instead of passing the gallstone, the reserve happened and the gallstone went into my pancreas.Therefore a serious infection was in my gland. At my last doctors appointment it appears the infection is healing but not clearly out of danger. My doctors want to remove my gallbladder on August 21st.
After reading your experience and how you are progressing really gives me confidence, but not so sure because of the pancreas...
Please any suggestions will help.

Thank you,

Jul 30, 2013
Flush (gone bad)
by: Anonymous

I've tryed this and it did not work for me but only made it worse for me as I had to be taken to a&e and spend 7 days in there on very strong pain meds and iv fluids so it don't work on all people but worth a shot at it if it works for you but just think about it if it don't work for you

Jun 26, 2013
by: Anonymous

I salute you for being brave and patient enough to take your medicines... And now I finally found out that having a gallstone it can be cured without surgery provided you follow what you did and take medicines spiritually ..

Jun 21, 2013
Best information for all gallbladder stone patients
by: Anonymous

Thanks for sharing this best information to everybody who they are suffering by gallbladder stone. May All Gods Bless You and Your family.

Jun 13, 2013
Last response was from me
by: Rudy

Sorry, that last response says "by Anonymous", but it is, in fact, my reply. I forgot to put my name there. It is the reply responding to the concern of dangers of the flush.

Jun 06, 2013
To Anonymous on the flush being dangerous
by: Anonymous

Thank you for your input about the saponified fats looking like stones. I have heard of this before, but I have not looked into it deeply as of yet. I actually never came across this when I was researching about the flushes.

There are risks to anything, even driving to the grocery store. People should do their own research and see if it is right for them. I guess that I should stress that this is my own personal experience and everyone needs to make up their own minds as to what they want to do.

I always stress that the prep work before the flush is very important. No one should attempt the flush without taking the time to break down and soften their stones first, with a regimen similar to what I've stated above, for at least 2 weeks. On my initial flush, I followed the regimen for 3 weeks.

I would also like to reiterate that this was 4 years ago when my doctor was telling me that I had to have my gallbladder out and I was having extreme pain from my gall stones. I have done a few flushes since then for minor discomfort or preventative maintenance. But, I always do the prep work before the flush. If the flushes didn't work, I'd be in a heap of trouble by now, or would have had my gallbladder removed in an emergency surgery. I'm glad to say that I am not even close to that scenario. I am living proof that this regimen works for me. The choice is up to the individual.

May 07, 2013
great info, but flush can be dangerous
by: Anonymous

I enjoyed reading your post and am currently on a regimen with many similar supplements; they've been truly helpful. I'm also eating vegan about 80% of the time, and eating lean meat and lowfat cheese in moderation the rest.

One thing worth pointing out and to follow up on your recent reply is that many naturopathic doctors (who do prescribe the supplements you mention) really warn against these olive oil flushes because they can be truly dangerous to someone with stones. The large, green stones people see pass have been documented as saponified (soaplike) fats created in your body by consuming all that olive oil. No doubt other gall stones could be flushed out as well, but there's a danger there for people with stones to stimulate the gallbladder like that because of the risk of those stones getting stuck.

I'm not a medical practitioner but I am a freelance health reporter (with a bad gallbladder) so, FWIW. Thanks for sharing so much good info.

Apr 11, 2013
by: Rudy

"Scared to try", this is in response to your questions.

Unfortunately, I am unable to 100% verify that what I passed were gallstones, because I never took them to be examined. I regret that decision, although, financial problems also prevented that at the time. I can tell you this. I felt great and could eat anything without any pain. I have done a couple of flushes since 2009 as preventative maintenance, but I was so bad back in 2009, that if I hadn't expelled my stones, I think I would be in really bad shape now, or dead. I am not close to either.

A couple of the stones I passed were almost an inch in diameter and I never felt them leave the gallbladder.

My wife had also done a flush, not because she was having any symptoms, but because this flush can also help the liver, as the gallbladder and liver work in tandem. She also had some stones come out. I have concluded that we all probably have something, it's just that some are not bothered by a tiny amount. In later investigations, I came across articles that have said the same thing, that probably everyone has some stones.

Any other questions, you (and anyone else) can reach me at

Apr 10, 2013
scared to try ?
by: Anonymous

how did ya know they were gallstones? what if they get stuck in bile duct have stones ?? email back

Mar 24, 2013
You can find me on FaceBook
by: Rudy has been discontinued for financial reasons a while back. All the pertinent information was included in this article, though. I have started the same venue at a FaceBook group page, also called Paradigm Shifting which can be seen at this link....

Thank you.

Jan 31, 2013
by: Anonymous

I really learnt a lot, thanks very much for this piece of information

Oct 27, 2010
Mayan Healing Wisdom Traditions
by: Valory

Gloria, thanks for sharing yours and your family's experiences of both illness and wonderful healings! I hear so many stories such as these, where we the people are not served by mainstream medical doctors. Yet there is so much knowledge and wisdom available to us once we open our minds and hearts to receiving it, and then taking action to care for ourselves - as your own stories reinforce - we can learn to be self-reliant healers, the Maya have been so for millennia. Thanks again for all the info and Many Blessings to you and your family in return.

Oct 22, 2010
healing remedies of the Maya Indiana of central america
by: gloria

Hello my mother and my daughter and me suffered from kidney stones even did the lithotripsy to get rid of stones went to Guatemala on vacation to visit my husbands relatives had a kidney stone attack they gave me a drink
of whole pineapple, virgin olive oil blended in mixer in half hour I passed stones and have shared this secret with many who have had wonderful success. Also they told me for diabetics who go crazy and they sedate them as they wanted to do with my mother they had her strapped down I called my brother in law he said give her a laxative to bring down ammonia in her body next day I told dr. he said no a compassionate nurse did it and mom was normal and sitting up waiting for dr. to come in next day wanting to go home. tobacco will heal bee stings,cod liver oil to stop loss of hair, shark liver oil to kill cancer cells these are Maya indian remedies from Central America. so many more. god bless gloria

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